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Charlie Rangle has authored a bill that may be dusted off after Obama enters the Oval Office. It’s called the National Service Act and calls for a universal draft with two years of “service” for virtually all persons aged 18-42, with no deferment for college. The language of Rangel’s bill states that:

“all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42″ be required to “perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security.”

YESTERDAY it said "be required to perform national service"

TODAY it says, "by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free."

This violates the 13th amendment of our constitution.

Anyway, for what it's worth , I found it interesting that yesterday it stated the word "required" and today it was changed to "setting a goal".


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Welcome to the new world order. Just wait and see what happens after he is in office. Whether it violates your rights or not Barry doesn't care. He's upset that the Constitution doesn't give the courts the power to redistribute wealth. So I'm sure that he doesn't care about any other rights under the Constitution.

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I don't like that it said requires, but don't you think this could be a good thing? The idea in itself is great, cause admit it, kids between 14-18 are pure trash nowadays.

It'd be good for them to get out and do something. I know when I was in high school, we had required comm. service and for one thing, it wasnt that bad. And second, you really were a different person coming out of it than going in.

AND, (last point, i swear) some states already require comm. service similar to the terms that are in this proposal.

Edit: Since they changed it, can you really find a problem with this? This would pay for an entire semester for me, and that is HUGE. And 100 hours a year? Cmon... (thats EASY to accomplish)

"Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free."

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Democratic leaders in the U.S. House discuss confiscating 401(k)s, IRAs

SOURCE: http://www.carolinajournal.com/articles/display_story.html?id=5081



RALEIGH — Democrats in the U.S. House have been conducting hearings on proposals to confiscate workers’ personal retirement accounts — including 401(k)s and IRAs — and convert them to accounts managed by the Social Security Administration.

Triggered by the financial crisis the past two months, the hearings reportedly were meant to stem losses incurred by many workers and retirees whose 401(k) and IRA balances have been shrinking rapidly.

The testimony of Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York, in hearings Oct. 7 drew the most attention and criticism. Testifying for the House Committee on Education and Labor, Ghilarducci proposed that the government eliminate tax breaks for 401(k) and similar retirement accounts, such as IRAs, and confiscate workers’ retirement plan accounts and convert them to universal Guaranteed Retirement Accounts (GRAs) managed by the Social Security Administration.



oh by the way -

Barack Obama on Wednesday stepped into the role of president-elect, inviting Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill) to join his administration as his White House chief of staff, Democratic officials.

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Heh. Didnt think it would start so early.

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Brian, I understand your point. I volunteer my time to help my community here. If I spend time at the food bank sorting goods, or at the park rebuilding walking paths, or picking up trash on the side of the road sponsored by a local group here in town. I may not always volunteer my time as much as I would like, but I give when I can.

I do this as an effort to help those without as much as I have because I feel that I should help where I can. I'm not being forced to do this, so I do it with joy. As soon as someone steps in and tells me that I am required to do something like this, I can promise you I will do the absolute least amount of time that I can do because it is now being forced on me and I have no choice. This is the difference.

As far as rights of our country, we were founded with a limited government in mind. I do not care what anyone else thinks, coming from a tyrannical king with far reaching powers, our forefathers established this country with a decentralized system of government. They knew the effects of large central government.

On your last point Brian, you are right about most people being clueless about the issues at hand on the ballot. There were I believe three proposed amendments out here that I did not vote on one way or the other because I was a bit hazy on how they would affect me. The other proposed amendments that I understood and knew what was going on I voted on. I feel that when we do vote that we need to cast a vote only when we understand what is going on. I just wish there was some way that you could teach other people this kind of responsibility on a large scale. Don't vote the party line. Understand the issues and vote on them.

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Driggs, I respectfully don't think you could be any more wrong on the matter. This is kind of a cop out, but I think you (everyone, actually) should read John Stuart Mill's "On Liberty". It's just a short article that clearly outlines the liberty of people from a utilitarian perspective.

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It might sound socialistic, but I think that everyone (ESPECIALLY people 18-24, these days) could benefit from 1-2 years of mandatory service. Young people these days (For the most part) lack discipline and anything resembling a work ethic. How many of us actually perform any sort of public service? The reason our freedom is kept safe is because of those who have spilled their blood and given their lives for our freedom. I think that a mandatory service would do wonders for the people of this country.

Before anyone asks, no, I have never served in the military. Not that it matters, but, I was brought up in a military household. I appreciate the self-sacrifice that our troops make. I can't say I agree with the war in Iraq, but that's neither here nor there.

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Good luck trying to get any Congress to pass this bill. Odds are 100:1 even if Barack Obama were to pass it. (He won't).

The world is not ending now that Barack Obama is president. I can almost guarantee you all that you won't even notice a difference.

The most important right, the right to bear arms, is the one that I will call upon if legislation like this ever passes.

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If you don't like what's going on, make as big of a stink about it as possible. Most people say and do nothing, but if you complain to those in office, and enough other people do it, they'll change their tune.

At leat, one can hope.... I'd hate for this country to go too far down the wrong path and I have to go to plan B.

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EXCLUSIVE: Agenda disappears from Obama Web site

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/11/exclusive-obama-deletes-agenda-from-transition-web/

EXCLUSIVE:

President-elect Barack Obama over the weekend scrubbed his transition Web site, deleting most of what had been a massive agenda for his first term that appears on his campaign's site.

Gone from Change.gov are the promises on how an Obama administration would handle 25 agenda items — from Iraq and immigration to taxes and urban policy — which the campaign first laid out on the Web site www.BarackObama.com.

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This is BULLSHIT is what it is.

SOURCE: http://www.infowars.com/?p=5828

Considering the emotional zeal of Obama’s kool aid drinkers — frighteningly on display as Obama swept the election — there will likely to be no shortage of recruits to enthusiastically enforce his decrees, actually decrees passed down by the globalist New World Order.

In a historical sense, this is fascism on steroids.

Addendum

Obama’s crew have reworded the text on the “America Serves” area of the Change-gov website. The word “require” has been removed, probably as a result of criticism, and other passages have been rewritten. Does this mean they no longer believe you should be a slave on an Obama work brigade? Hardly. Joe Biden has said “rich” people making over $250,000 need to work more for the state, not directly but by surrendering an even larger share of their personal income through confiscatory taxes, thus revealing a disturbing mentality: the state owns you. It’s patriotic to be a slave.

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actually, I changed my mind. I am saying that President Bush's grandfather was a Nazi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush

It's a known fact that the Centralized Union Bank was founded and invested by Nazi Regime.

Gerald Ford knew Prescott Bush was a Nazi.

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I'm against the government ever dictating how I spend my time.

Maybe the generation growing up is dumber than ever. Maybe that's because the media never talks about REAL role models, it just shoves hollywood, consumption, and sports down their throats from day 1. TV is a tool of the elite IMO. Was it Karl Marx that said religion was an opiate of the masses? I don't believe its religion, I think it's TELEVISION. Misinformation designed to make everyone blind and complacent, and remove critical thinking skills from the majority of voters.

The most self-centered generation is definately the baby boomers. They spend and spend and spend, they actually had to borrow from my generation and several in the future. $10 trillion dollar national debt gee thanks bye!

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I honestly believe that has to do with people not having to sacrifice anything growing up. My parents grew up relatively poor. There were many nights when they went to sleep hungry because there was nothing to eat. They just did not have the money to do so.

Today, they have a nice home, savings, retirement plans and I did not have to go through what they went through. Granted, I wasn't given everything. I got a truck from my grandfather that I put close to $3k of my own money into so that it would be reliable while I drove it. My brother got a more reliable car for about the same money.

We both learned the value of money through hard work. Cutting lawns, clearing land by hand (while they were building the nice house they have now), splitting firewood, painting, etc. We were paid for the work we did. If I wanted to go out on Friday night and didn't have money, my dad would give me $30 but I had to bust ass around the house that weekend to pay him back.

Being given your desires without having to work for them will breed complacency and a sense of entitlement.

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