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eclipse982nrRSTApr-13-08 06:23 PM
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#32595, "The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."


          

I will keep this short and sweet.

Some kid from tunerz IM'd me last night around midnight telling me I was helping a newbie 2gnt turbo member in the wrong way.

Make a long story short now, this guy has turbo'd 6 n/a cars and claims that it is IMPOSSIBLE to boost without a missing link or a FCD.

He says, as SOON as you hit 1psi, the ECU see's boost and IMMEDIATELY shuts off, 'like running into a wall' was his exact words, the car comes to a stop.

All I need is to prove this ass jockey that it is possible and has been done probably 10 million times from members here.

They drive without a FCD or ML and you CAN boost sometimes, not always without one or the other.

So, voice your opinion please.

Can it be done sometimes or not?

Also, keep in mind, again, he is from Tunerz.

-MIKE-

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RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., 57TRIMGS, Apr-13-08 09:07 PM, #1
RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., eclipse982nrRST, Apr-14-08 01:21 AM, #2
      RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., totaleclipse_05, Apr-14-08 05:10 AM, #3
      RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Apr-14-08 10:01 AM, #4
           RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., eclipse982nrRST, Apr-14-08 11:22 AM, #5
RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., noboost, Apr-14-08 07:13 AM, #6
RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., EclipseSix, Apr-14-08 11:30 AM, #7
      RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., DirtMegirt, Apr-14-08 12:04 PM, #8
RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., 57TRIMGS, Apr-14-08 12:48 PM, #9
RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., totaleclipse_05, Apr-14-08 02:04 PM, #10
RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., djtrickee, Apr-14-08 03:09 PM, #11
      RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., eclipse982nrRST, Apr-14-08 03:48 PM, #12
           RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., Moderatormicyek, Apr-15-08 06:22 AM, #13
RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Apr-16-08 02:59 AM, #14
      RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., TeamDR1665, Apr-16-08 06:26 AM, #15
           RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Apr-16-08 09:00 AM, #16
           RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., shazow1969, Apr-20-08 01:51 PM, #17
           RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz., goalie40, Apr-21-08 05:58 PM, #18

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#32596, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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I'm running a T3/T4 at 8 PSI with no problems. If he does a millisecond of research he'll see that the 95 map sensor isnt affected by boost, hence it runs great w/o FCD or ML.

  

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eclipse982nrRSTApr-14-08 01:21 AM
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#32601, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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Originally posted by 57TRIMGS
I'm running a T3/T4 at 8 PSI with no problems. If he does a millisecond of research he'll see that the 95 map sensor isnt affected by boost, hence it runs great w/o FCD or ML.


I am talking about a 96-99.

-MIKE-

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totaleclipse_05Apr-14-08 05:10 AM
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#32605, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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I ran 6-8 psi on my 99 without running a FCD or Missing link. It would never fuel-cut at WOT, but if I let off the throttle a bit (part-throttle boosting), I would finally hit it. It's not like my car all of a sudden stopped in the middle of the road though.

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Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneApr-14-08 10:01 AM
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#32610, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST
I am talking about a 96-99.


Then you're wrong, they need an FCD or ML. Not all the 96's will fuel cut, but the majority will.

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eclipse982nrRSTApr-14-08 11:22 AM
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#32611, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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Originally posted by DarkOne
Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST I am talking about a 96-99.
Then you're wrong, they need an FCD or ML. Not all the 96's will fuel cut, but the majority will.


Correct but incorrect.

96-99 DO need FCD's or ML's but without one, you can still sometimes get into boosting without hitting fuel cut everytime.

It is possible, mostly like ^^^ said though, usually only can happen at WOT.

-MIKE-

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noboostApr-14-08 07:13 AM
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#32606, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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EclipseSixApr-14-08 11:30 AM
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#32612, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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Originally posted by noboost



hahahaha

  

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#32613, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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Correct...incorrect, sometimes...everytime, mostly...usually...only. Ok i'm confused!

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#32614, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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In my opinion I'd tell the guy to get a 95 map sensor and forget it. My motor is a 96 so I used my old sensor and gave another to my friend and we're both doin fine in boost.

  

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#32615, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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Originally posted by 57TRIMGS
In my opinion I'd tell the guy to get a 95 map sensor and forget it. My motor is a 96 so I used my old sensor and gave another to my friend and we're both doin fine in boost.


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#32617, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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Originally posted by totaleclipse_05
Originally posted by 57TRIMGS In my opinion I'd tell the guy to get a 95 map sensor and forget it. My motor is a 96 so I used my old sensor and gave another to my friend and we're both doin fine in boost.
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hahaha. Agreed. W T F mate.

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#32619, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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Originally posted by djtrickee
Originally posted by totaleclipse_05
Originally posted by 57TRIMGS In my opinion I'd tell the guy to get a 95 map sensor and forget it. My motor is a 96 so I used my old sensor and gave another to my friend and we're both doin fine in boost.
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hahaha. Agreed. W T F mate.


wow, dont ever say that again.

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#32626, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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I guess you might be able to run without a FCD...sometimes...but why would you want to? Spending 50 bucks to have a car that runs while boosting "reliably" seems like a no brainier. I guess I don't get why you are fighting this.

getty up

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#32660, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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Apr-16-08 03:02 AM by DarkOne



          

Originally posted by 57TRIMGS
In my opinion I'd tell the guy to get a 95 map sensor and forget it. My motor is a 96 so I used my old sensor and gave another to my friend and we're both doin fine in boost.


The sensor has *nothing* to do with it. it's the ECU that causes fuel cut based on the MAP sensor's input, not the other way around. 95's will playfully ignore MAP sensor voltages above atmospheric, while most other years will freak out and cut fuel because they thing there is something wrong with the sensor.

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#32664, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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Originally posted by DarkOne
The sensor has *nothing* to do with it. it's the ECU that causes fuel cut based on the MAP sensor's input, not the other way around. 95's will playfully ignore MAP sensor voltages above atmospheric, while most other years will freak out and cut fuel because they thing there is something wrong with the sensor.


What he said. And take a step back to listen to what you're trying to argue, Mike. My god. The "kid" on Tuners is right. You are wrong. You've fucked up again.

If you have a 96-99 2GNT, you don't HAVE TO use a FCD, but it would be like saying you don't HAVE TO use more than three lug nuts per wheel. That's damn ignorant, man. If there's time to do it once, there's time to do it right. It's a $50 part. If the guy has a 96-99 and that $50 is too much to spend, then he needs to not be playing with cars.

  

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#32668, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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My 96 Talon never needed a FCD. I ran 2 years and drove the car daily and never once felt any type of fuel cut.

My 97 only feels a tiny hicup and runs fine when entering boost. No actual FUEL CUT.

  

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#32723, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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#32729, "RE: The post to prove an asshat wrong from tunerz."
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Originally posted by DR1665
Originally posted by DarkOne but it would be like saying you don't HAVE TO use more than three lug nuts per wheel.


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