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freelancefoolMar-26-07 05:24 PM
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So I decided to go on ahead and start my five speed swap this weekend. So far I have the motor and tranny sitting on the ground. Cam gears will be on it Wednesday as long as I have time after work. I also figured at this point I would do a lightweight flywheel and install the polyurethane bushing kit that I have here.

So far my expectations are that it will move under it's own power in the next two to three weeks as I only have a couple hours a night after I get off work. I intend on adding to the current write ups that we have here for the swap.

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RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., edxmon, Mar-26-07 05:41 PM, #1
RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., EclipseTical, Mar-27-07 04:48 AM, #2
RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., freelancefool, Mar-27-07 05:12 AM, #3
      RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., Malenko, Mar-28-07 01:45 AM, #4
           RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., freelancefool, Mar-28-07 11:16 AM, #5
                RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., edxmon, Mar-28-07 03:11 PM, #6
                     RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., freelancefool, Mar-28-07 04:26 PM, #7
                          RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., freelancefool, Mar-29-07 10:36 AM, #8
                               RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., freelancefool, Mar-31-07 12:28 PM, #9
                                    RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., saikou, Mar-31-07 12:47 PM, #10
                                         RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., freelancefool, Mar-31-07 01:26 PM, #11
                                              Update, freelancefool, Apr-03-07 06:45 PM, #12
                                                   RE: Update, Moderatorcs82685, Apr-03-07 07:01 PM, #13
                                                   RE: Update, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Apr-04-07 08:44 AM, #14
                                                        RE: Update, freelancefool, Apr-04-07 01:37 PM, #15
                                                   RE: Update, EclipseSix, Apr-03-07 07:22 PM, #16
                                                        RE: Update, ez, Apr-03-07 08:24 PM, #17
                                                             RE: Update, freelancefool, Apr-04-07 02:47 AM, #18
                                                                  RE: Update, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Apr-04-07 01:39 PM, #19
RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., freelancefool, Apr-07-07 05:58 PM, #20
RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., 97esiboosted, Apr-08-07 05:15 AM, #21
      RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., freelancefool, Apr-08-07 05:51 AM, #22
           RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., freelancefool, Apr-10-07 05:47 PM, #23
                RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., freelancefool, Apr-18-07 05:18 PM, #24
                     RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., Chamuko, Apr-23-07 09:36 PM, #25
                          RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., freelancefool, Apr-24-07 12:42 AM, #26
RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., freelancefool, May-04-07 06:18 PM, #27
RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., dsmmyth, May-05-07 08:48 AM, #28
      RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...., freelancefool, May-05-07 12:17 PM, #29

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#22494, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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are you by any chance using a neon tranny? cuz Ive been wanting to do that myself (im already manual) Good luck on the swap!



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his girl kept looking out and down my car like uh ok we're in this 100 whatever thousand dollar car and that little whatever it is just raped us.... turbo screamed past the window like a vortex of ownage :-P robbing his engine of all the air around, and thats how i like it

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#22496, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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Originally posted by edxmon
are you by any chance using a neon tranny? cuz Ive been wanting to do that myself (im already manual) Good luck on the swap!


Why? Is your current tranny fuxored or are you just thinking for down the road when you are making more power and can actually benefit from the taller gearing?

the taller gearing in the neon tranny will be pretty much worthless to you if you are NA and making little power. Might even send your gas mileage down the crapper but don't quote me on that.

UNless you will be making gobs of power in the future i wouldn't worry about this swap for now.

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#22500, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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Not using the Neon transmission. I want the shorter gears for better acceleration since I am NA. If I ever fork up the cash to pick up a turbo kit I might find a Neon tranny to swap in.

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MalenkoMar-28-07 01:45 AM
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#22530, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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take pix, write a newer and better FAQ , put it in the wiki let 2GNT grow with your car =)

  

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#22541, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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I'm planning on documenting everything for the swap. I didn't think about documenting the motor being pulled out the transmission though. Which I probably should have done. This is a mod that I figured you should be able to get the motor out without much help before you should attempt this. I'll probably document the cam gear install/timing belt install tonight. I'm sure it will help the masses.

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#22547, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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Yea I do feel like my tranny is going to the crapper soon thought, plus they charge a shit load of money for any eclipse parts where I get my shit, makes me jelous of the honda guys... emoji



Originally posted by turbo8u
his girl kept looking out and down my car like uh ok we're in this 100 whatever thousand dollar car and that little whatever it is just raped us.... turbo screamed past the window like a vortex of ownage :-P robbing his engine of all the air around, and thats how i like it

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I came across a huge sack of walnuts in my grandmas garage - I better make use of them.

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#22553, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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It can't be that bad. I'm sure if you look hard enough you can find a transmission for a reasonable price. I paid $400 for mine. It was working when it came out of the car and the seller tore it down for me to make sure everything was kosher.

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#22595, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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So I got the cam gears installed. I'll have the write up later on tonight.

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#22682, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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As promised.

http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=Cam%20Gear%20Install

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#22683, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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Originally posted by freelancefool
As promised. http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=Cam%20Gear%20Install


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#22687, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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Ya gotta do what you gotta do.

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So the 5 speed swap is coming along nicely and I hope I never have to do this again. Figuring out how to get a drill under the dash to make holes for the slave cylinder sucked. I'm still taking pictures of everything as I go. I will hopefully have enough info to do a decent wiki writeup. I'll post more later.

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Originally posted by freelancefool
As promised. http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=Cam%20Gear%20Install


Very nice. It really helped me picture a few things I was unsure about and I think will help when I pull my head in the next couple months


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Originally posted by cs82685
Originally posted by freelancefool As promised. http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=Cam%20Gear%20Install
Very nice. It really helped me picture a few things I was unsure about and I think will help when I pull my head in the next couple months


Good deal. I added a title and a quick aside about another way to steady the cam.

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I figured they would be something under the valve cover, but I didn't bother to crack it open to find out. Thanks for the aside Dino. Also, I updated the fact you need to reverse the timing 1/2 tooth counterclockwise since I forgot to do that previously.

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Originally posted by freelancefool
So the 5 speed swap is coming along nicely and I hope I never have to do this again. Figuring out how to get a drill under the dash to make holes for the slave cylinder sucked. I'm still taking pictures of everything as I go. I will hopefully have enough info to do a decent wiki writeup. I'll post more later.


yep, this part was a pain in the ass. I ended up using an air hammer to bust thru the firewall from the outside, then drilled the hole wider and ground down the sharp edges. most ghetto thing ever lol. but it worked . mounting the master cylinder and clutch aren't any fun either, having half the studs on one piece and half on the other ;P

but damn what a difference. car feels fast, now I want those cam gears and some udp

  

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One ghetto fool to another - good job! One question - it needs to be updated on the wikipedia just to clarify. When you say back off 1/2 tooth, does that mean the crank should go 1/2 tooth clockwise or 1/2 tooth counterclockwise? I remember when I did the belt and every time I would check if things lined up after two full crank rotations, it would be off a bit. So then I adjusted the crank ~1/2 tooth too. I just don't remember which direction the crank had to be turned.

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It's 1/2 turn counterclockwise. I'll update it accordingly unless someone else wants to.

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Originally posted by freelancefool
It's 1/2 turn counterclockwise. I'll update it accordingly unless someone else wants to.


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#22867, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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I hate myself right now. I started tearing down my suspension today for my polyurethane install. So pretty much all the ball joints are toast on the front end. I guess 145K miles is a pretty decent lifetime, but that's a lot of stuff to replace all at once. Inner/outer tie rods were all toast. I probably should have replaced all this stuff a while back though. Fuck I'm poor now.

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#22868, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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Have fun with polyurethane install. its a BITCH!!! 6-9 hours with the right tools.

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#22869, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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If by the right tools you mean borrowing a shitty bearing press then yes I have the right tools.

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So I got the Prothane poly kit done Sunday. By the time I finished up it was about 11pm. Hopefully this weekend I will have the rest of the suspension stuff in. Then I can start putting the car back together. Next week I should have the motor/5spd in the car.

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#23257, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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Well barring my parts not showing up by Saturday. My car should run again. I really hope that I can get it back together. Otherwise I will be pretty upset. After it runs and I snap some more pictures I will start my writeup.

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#23415, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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if you want, you can use the bits and pieces from the "write up" that I never got around to finishing.


"edited" write up
http://www34.brinkster.com/chamukogs/ATtoMT%20with%20pictures%20in%20document.htm

"parts list"

http://www34.brinkster.com/chamukogs/Parts%20list%20for%20the%20swap.htm

some "drawings"

Clutch Switch

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Reverse Switch

http://www34.brinkster.com/chamukogs/ATtoMT%20with%20pictures%20in%20document_files/reverse.bmp

VSS

http://www34.brinkster.com/chamukogs/ATtoMT%20with%20pictures%20in%20document_files/vss.bmp

One a Side note, can I add this to the wikki?

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#23417, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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Thanks man! I'll definitely include some of that in my write-up and credit you for the info.

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#23855, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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Fuck yes. Nikita is back and runs. Just have a couple of small things to finish up-clutch safety switch, brake light switch, speedo, etc.-and throw the hood on and she's done. It feels fucking amazing to drive her again.

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Originally posted by freelancefool
Fuck yes. Nikita is back and runs. Just have a couple of small things to finish up-clutch safety switch, brake light switch, speedo, etc.-and throw the hood on and she's done. It feels fucking amazing to drive her again.


Lol, Nikita?

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#23886, "RE: Well I think I may be without the Eclipse for a while...."
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Yea. It's an odd name for a tough car. Everything is complete under the hood. When it cools off some more I will put the center console back together and it will be done.

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