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kingoftheroses	Jun-16-06 03:46 PM
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#10957, "FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."

In the new Fast and the Furious movie, they mount a Nissan Silvia S15 engine (SR20DET I think) into a beat up 1967 Mustang in less than 5 minutes of screen time. And you guys said a 420A 4G63 swap would be hard! emoji

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RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., Steve, Jun-16-06 04:39 PM, #1

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., cc8balla, Jun-16-06 04:55 PM, #2

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., dsmmyth, Jun-16-06 05:28 PM, #3

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., T_K, Jun-16-06 06:09 PM, #4

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., WIDECLIPSE, Jun-16-06 06:40 PM, #5

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., Dualgen2, Jun-16-06 08:58 PM, #6

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., DarkTalon, Jun-16-06 09:22 PM, #7

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., DSM_John, Jun-17-06 03:41 AM, #8

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., WIDECLIPSE, Jun-17-06 04:20 AM, #9

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., DarkTalon, Jun-17-06 05:23 AM, #10

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., Dualgen2, Jun-17-06 08:12 AM, #11

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., 420a-Tnthewerks, Jun-17-06 10:09 AM, #12

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., kingoftheroses, Jun-17-06 04:28 PM, #13

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., slowmitsu, Jun-18-06 03:26 AM, #14

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., totaleclipse_05, Jun-18-06 04:24 AM, #15

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., slowmitsu, Jun-18-06 04:33 AM, #16

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., chronicshit, Jun-18-06 11:32 AM, #17

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., BumpinTalon, Jun-18-06 12:38 PM, #18

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., Dracas, Jun-18-06 01:42 PM, #19

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., T_K, Jun-18-06 03:57 PM, #20

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., whodatt1, Jun-18-06 04:51 PM, #21

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., hunntyr, Jun-19-06 05:34 PM, #22

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., ColtsNumba1Fan, Jun-20-06 05:35 AM, #23

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., Keith2172, Jun-19-06 08:00 AM, #24

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., Initial DSM, Jun-19-06 10:55 AM, #25

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RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., Dualgen2, Jun-20-06 06:52 AM, #31

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., T_K, Jun-20-06 02:40 PM, #32

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., WickedESi, Jun-21-06 05:24 PM, #33

RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..., DSMRoadster, Jun-22-06 11:21 AM, #34

Steve	Jun-16-06 04:39 PM
Member since Sep 15th 2003 1542 posts,

#10958, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
In response to Reply # 0

Whats up with seeing vin diesel in a commercial of that piece of garbage?

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I guess I'll just have to live with a 500+ hp AWD 4-banger. emoji

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cc8balla	Jun-16-06 04:55 PM
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#10959, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Originally posted by Steve
Whats up with seeing vin diesel in a commercial of that piece of garbage?

I saw that. I'm gonna watch it Monday night. Just to see how ghey it is.

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dsmmyth	Jun-16-06 05:28 PM
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#10960, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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For some reason, I thought Final Fantasy 3.

But yea, yo, it's gonna be off the hizzle. I'm watch it.

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T_K	Jun-16-06 06:09 PM
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#10962, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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I saw it. The premise isn't all that bad if handled with skill and some imagination but nah. Let's put lots of shiny and neon. At least the Evo was pretty.

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WIDECLIPSE	Jun-16-06 06:40 PM
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#10964, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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C'mon now bro. Don't confuse the RB26 for an sr motor. Geez.

-Roman

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Dualgen2	Jun-16-06 08:58 PM
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#10967, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Originally posted by WIDECLIPSE
C'mon now bro. Don't confuse the RB26 for an sr motor. Geez.

Thank god someone caught that. Why do I have the urge to swap a RB in an old domestic car? Or anything for that reason. Surprised they didn't have an AE86 drift at all.

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DarkTalon	Jun-16-06 09:22 PM
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#10969, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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I just got back from seeing it, not the best movie in the world, but by FARRR better than the last 2 combined, and they earn extra points for not lying to everyone by saying vin would return..even if it was for maybe 5 mins screen time....

Now, about the mustang....consider this about the movie: The mustang was in japan, and was nothing but a shell from the looks of it. Now, think about how hard it would be to get an american v8 over there....probably about like getting an rb26 here in the states...PLUS the kid had limited money by that time(apparently), so yea...that's a reason as to WHY in the movie.....where they got the idea is beyond me...

I did get to see the car in person at Drift Atlanta...as well as the orange RX-7, the flat black 350z, and the Evo... out of the 3 the mustang and evo were the cleanest overall...the bodywork on the 350 was SEVERLY lacking...and the rx-7 had fair body work...but it was ruined by the front windshield trim MISSING and being replaced with black electrical tape...

but yea..overall the movie was good, it actually surprised me..i was going in expecting another thing like 2F2F...but with over 90% of the stunts being live action, it made up for the usual rough acting...

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DSM_John	Jun-17-06 03:41 AM
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#10974, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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So how much plot depends on dialogue? I'm assuming 0%, but I'll be seeing it auf Deutsch. Should be interesting.

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WIDECLIPSE	Jun-17-06 04:20 AM
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#10975, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Originally posted by Dualgen2
Surprised they didn't have an AE86 drift at all.

Are you really? This is TFATF we're talking about here. I don't think they can rice out an old corolla to the level of some of their previous cars.

-Roman

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DarkTalon	Jun-17-06 05:23 AM
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#10976, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Jun-17-06 05:24 AM by DarkTalon

Well, there WAS a corolla that made a short appearance on screen, but wasnt drifting, the character named han and the main antagonist(takashi) made a wager... a '76 skyline(han's) for a fully tuned 86 corolla, and han had lucas' character race one of takashi's crew, but it was 350z and an evo running with the skyline and toyota as the prize, and the corolla got like...1.5 seconds of screen time, lol....

also, something that surprised me is actually how realistically modifed the cars were(I saw lots of professional U.S. drift cars in the scenery). The only major neon I saw was on the vans, and well..as the 70s showed us, vans have no rules when it comes to what you put on or in them....but as for the cars..just lots of vinyl as is par for the franchise...it was refreshing, however, to see a stock viper and an hotrodded old school monte carlo(it was like, white, with a black primer hood) beat the shit out of each other...

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Dualgen2	Jun-17-06 08:12 AM
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#10982, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Originally posted by DarkTalon
Well, there WAS a corolla that made a short appearance on screen, but wasnt drifting, the character named han and the main antagonist(takashi) made a wager... a '76 skyline(han's) for a fully tuned 86 corolla, and han had lucas' character race one of takashi's crew, but it was 350z and an evo running with the skyline and toyota as the prize, and the corolla got like...1.5 seconds of screen time, lol.... also, something that surprised me is actually how realistically modifed the cars were(I saw lots of professional U.S. drift cars in the scenery). The only major neon I saw was on the vans, and well..as the 70s showed us, vans have no rules when it comes to what you put on or in them....but as for the cars..just lots of vinyl as is par for the franchise...it was refreshing, however, to see a stock viper and an hotrodded old school monte carlo(it was like, white, with a black primer hood) beat the shit out of each other...

I couldn't stop laughing when I saw what's his face from Home Improvement w/ the Viper. I know they showed a 86 in the movie and they did the wager vs the Datsun but they should of SHOWED the Datsun and drifted the 86. o well. My favorite part of the movie was........

"Ready", SET-O!!!" before the 2 races.

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420a-Tnthewerks	Jun-17-06 10:09 AM
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#10988, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Alot more action in this one, wasn't bad, imo.

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kingoftheroses	Jun-17-06 04:28 PM
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#10995, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Originally posted by Dualgen2

Originally posted by WIDECLIPSE C'mon now bro. Don't confuse the RB26 for an sr motor. Geez.

Thank god someone caught that. Why do I have the urge to swap a RB in an old domestic car? Or anything for that reason. Surprised they didn't have an AE86 drift at all.

To be honest, I can tell the difference between a 420A and a 4G63 and that's about it. After posting, I read that the engine was from a Skyline - but I could have sworn in the movie that he wrecked a Silvia. Oh well. You guys would know better. I'm not a mechanic (but owning a 2GNT has certainly made me something close to one). My bad.

BTW - the movie wasn't horrible. It was a fun escape for a couple hours to a world where all high school students are 25, everyone has $50,000 or more worth of car(s), and all the girls are pretty. Oh and also - I'm strangely entertained by Japanese girly-rock-rap. I dunno.

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slowmitsu	Jun-18-06 03:26 AM
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#11002, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Originally posted by kingoftheroses

Originally posted by Dualgen2

Originally posted by WIDECLIPSE C'mon now bro. Don't confuse the RB26 for an sr motor. Geez.

Thank god someone caught that. Why do I have the urge to swap a RB in an old domestic car? Or anything for that reason. Surprised they didn't have an AE86 drift at all.

To be honest, I can tell the difference between a 420A and a 4G63 and that's about it. After posting, I read that the engine was from a Skyline - but I could have sworn in the movie that he wrecked a Silvia. Oh well. You guys would know better. I'm not a mechanic (but owning a 2GNT has certainly made me something close to one). My bad. BTW - the movie wasn't horrible. It was a fun escape for a couple hours to a world where all high school students are 25, everyone has $50,000 or more worth of car(s), and all the girls are pretty. Oh and also - I'm strangely entertained by Japanese girly-rock-rap. I dunno.

Silvia's pack SR20DET's from the factory but in the movie I think they they were all RB26 swapped.

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totaleclipse_05	Jun-18-06 04:24 AM
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#11003, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Originally posted by slowmitsu
Silvia's pack SR20DET's from the factory but in the movie I think they they were all RB26 swapped.

Only one was RB26 swapped and that one didn't even run. Some of the cars they used in filiming were SR20DE and SR20DET motors in the silvia. Keep in mind this is for filming purposes, in the movie it's SUPPOSE to be an RB26 swapped silvia.

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slowmitsu	Jun-18-06 04:33 AM
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#11004, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Originally posted by totaleclipse_05

Originally posted by slowmitsu Silvia's pack SR20DET's from the factory but in the movie I think they they were all RB26 swapped.

Yeah. I read too much Sport Compact Car too. emoji

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chronicshit	Jun-18-06 11:32 AM
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#11016, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0bbdb956-b678-4f33-afb9-ec7817c5a019.htm

ahaha check out what the ricers were doing right after the premiere of the movie.

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BumpinTalon	Jun-18-06 12:38 PM
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#11017, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Jun-18-06 12:45 PM by BumpinTalon

I saw it and judged against the first two, the movie is the Shawshank Redemption in comparison... really entertaining driving scenes, and they actually listened to the criticisms of the second one (that the movie should reflect the real life trends and not try to set them) so the cars are all in all really nice. The movie was way more accurate then the last two, you can tell that Han's orange RX-7 has a heavily ported rotary... sounded amazing, they didn't downplay the cars at all in this one.

Really I am so impressed with this movie words fail. Its not great by any means, but since I watched it with low standards expecting something terrible like 2F2F, I was totally floored.

edit: to the OP, man that was a 5 minute MONTAGE! we all know montage time is actually like 500 times real time to screen time, so it took them like 2 weeks to build the car and get it dialed it emoji

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Dracas	Jun-18-06 01:42 PM
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#11019, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Originally posted by dsmmyth
For some reason, I thought Final Fantasy 3.

I thought the same thing. Then I started thinking, did he mean 3 or 6.

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T_K	Jun-18-06 03:57 PM
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#11027, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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you need no fancy stickers, wings and decals to drift emoji

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3194370682225275744&q=Lada

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whodatt1	Jun-18-06 04:51 PM
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#11029, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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saw it tonight, by far better than the second one. I actually enjoyed it emoji

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hunntyr	Jun-19-06 05:34 PM
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#11095, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Originally posted by whodatt1
saw it tonight, by far better than the second one. I actually enjoyed it emoji

+1 I saw it tonight also. You should have heard my G/F coming out of the theater though, sounded like a damn ricer LOL.

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ColtsNumba1Fan	Jun-20-06 05:35 AM
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#11106, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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i liked it much more than the 2nd, it seems to be more about cars than any of the others, not bad to me. wonder what the 4th is gonna do now?

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Keith2172	Jun-19-06 08:00 AM
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#11051, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Originally posted by T_K
you need no fancy stickers, wings and decals to drift emoji

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3194370682225275744&q=Lada

Notice how skinny the tires on those Lada's (is this the name of the car?) are, no wonder they could break traction so easily. All in all, looks like a shit load of fun. Wonder where that vid was filmed?

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Initial DSM	Jun-19-06 10:55 AM
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#11060, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Haha I guess Remy was right...

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cc8balla	Jun-19-06 11:25 AM
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#11065, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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The only bad part in that movie that made me cringe and laugh at the same time is when Bow was telling him how to drift by "pulling the ebrake". IDK, just thought that was wrong. The EVO was nice, converted to RWD, and I loved the ported rotary in Han's RX7. By far the best F&F movie yet.

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Initial DSM	Jun-19-06 12:15 PM
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#11071, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Originally posted by cc8balla
The only bad part in that movie that made me cringe and laugh at the same time is when Bow was telling him how to drift by "pulling the ebrake". IDK, just thought that was wrong. The EVO was nice, converted to RWD, and I loved the ported rotary in Han's RX7. By far the best F&F movie yet.

pulling the e-brake is just one of the many methods. Usually for fwd cars though.

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T_K	Jun-19-06 01:33 PM
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#11077, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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FWD cars can't drift, LOL!! They slide. The e-brake could be used with the RWD car just for an instant to break traction I guess.

Originally posted by Keith2172

Originally posted by T_K you need no fancy stickers, wings and decals to drift emoji

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3194370682225275744&q=Lada

Yeah, LADA is the brand, soviet copy of a FIAT from the 70's, 1.3 and 1.5l makes some 50-60hp but the important thing - it's dirt cheap now and its RWD emoji

Here's a turbo-ed LADA, I imagine a LOT of work went into it. Swapped engine surely. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6751371247929469157

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cc8balla	Jun-19-06 02:17 PM
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#11085, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Jun-19-06 02:17 PM by cc8balla

Originally posted by T_K
FWD cars can't drift, LOL!! They slide. The e-brake could be used with the RWD car just for an instant to break traction I guess.

Yea that's right. Just an instant.

But hey, I can dream I am drifting in my FWD car by yanking the ebrake so i can slide. Heh.

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T_K	Jun-19-06 02:43 PM
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#11088, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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I kinda drifted once in my AWD. I took a turn a little too tight mashing 2nd in the wet with worn rear tires and all of a sudden the rear swung about. I did get it straight but if it was RWD I'd have ended in the guardrail emoji

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Dualgen2	Jun-20-06 06:52 AM
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#11115, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Jun-20-06 06:52 AM by Dualgen2

Originally posted by T_K
I kinda drifted once in my AWD. I took a turn a little too tight mashing 2nd in the wet with worn rear tires and all of a sudden the rear swung about. I did get it straight but if it was RWD I'd have ended in the guardrail emoji

AWD> everything else, until you want to start having "fun"

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T_K	Jun-20-06 02:40 PM
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#11133, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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btw for real drifting see Initial D (the movie, there's also an anime but the movie is real stuff).

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WickedESi	Jun-21-06 05:24 PM
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#11190, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Jun-21-06 05:25 PM by WickedESi

Yeah, I've owned tons of the Initial D episodes for years now. Major hit in Japan.

The e-brake is used in drifting RWD cars to initiate the drift, then the throttle to modulate it. Yeah cringe you say, most people here think drifting is a form of racing, it's not unless your car has more acceleration force than lateral grip (meaning your car can't handle worth a shit, Ex: a high power Mustang). If Americans understood it, they would say it's for show, but they said it best actually in that movie when they said it's like a form of dancing. It's not the quickest way from point A to point B, nor is suppose to be.

I guess the reason they have those "drift races" in Japan is 1) to show off and 2) when know one is looking but the 2 racers, that whole "honor" thing they are into.

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DSMRoadster	Jun-22-06 11:21 AM
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#11225, "RE: FF3 - Hey if they can do this..."
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Fast and Furious 3 is out already? WTF? What the fuck am I missing back in the states?

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