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TheGhostSep-26-06 07:26 AM
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#29794, "Budget Brake Question"


          

I just wanted to know if the brakes from a 3000gt VR-4 can be used on a 2g. I know a bracket has to be made but has anyone ever done a write up on the install. For the front and back. Also if I do decide on doing the gsx brake conversion all the way around. How can I mount the emergency brake setup with cutting anything up.

P.S. I am new but have been reading for months. I have a 96 eclipse rs.

  

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RE: Budget Brake Question, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Sep-26-06 08:21 AM, #1
RE: Budget Brake Question, TheGhost, Sep-26-06 09:18 AM, #2
      RE: Budget Brake Question, TeamDR1665, Sep-26-06 10:48 AM, #3
           RE: Budget Brake Question, TeamAvenger, Sep-26-06 12:01 PM, #4
                RE: Budget Brake Question, turbo8u, Sep-26-06 02:35 PM, #5
                     RE: Budget Brake Question, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Sep-26-06 02:56 PM, #6
                          RE: Budget Brake Question, TheGhost, Sep-27-06 11:21 AM, #7
                          RE: Budget Brake Question, foggy45, Sep-30-06 12:45 PM, #8
                               RE: Budget Brake Question, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Sep-30-06 02:48 PM, #9
                          RE: Budget Brake Question, VelocitaPaola, Sep-30-06 05:19 PM, #10
                               RE: Budget Brake Question, foggy45, Oct-01-06 04:53 AM, #11
                                    RE: Budget Brake Question, turbo8u, Oct-01-06 11:28 AM, #12

AdministratorStar Turbo TalonSep-26-06 08:21 AM
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#29795, "RE: Budget Brake Question"
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guys have been using the vr-4 brakes for a while on tuners. you might want to look there for pictures.

Terry

  

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TheGhostSep-26-06 09:18 AM
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#29796, "RE: Budget Brake Question"
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Thanks alot ... You do alot of post and seem to be a guru of sorts anyway god bless and again thanks

  

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TeamDR1665Sep-26-06 10:48 AM
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#29797, "RE: Budget Brake Question"
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Sep-26-06 11:02 AM by DR1665

          

Originally posted by TheGhost
Thanks alot ... You do alot of post and seem to be a guru of sorts anyway god bless and again thanks


God bless Star Turbo Talon! emoji

Good for you, new guy, with the reading up on your own and taking initiative. Personally, I've yet to really delve too deeply into the 3kgt upgrade, however I would think the relative simplicity of the GSX set up would be ideal, where budget was concerned. Keep in mind that you would not have to also upgrade to cross-drilled/slotted rotors, high-end brake pads, stainless lines and synthetic fluids that you have to overnight from Japan.

You can make a simple start by sourcing a nice set of GSX front calipers and stock rotors from your local parts house. I recall thedawg one time saying that, even just stepping up to stock GSX rotors up front, you will see a noticeable improvement over stock. Then you just do your shopping for the rear caliper solution.

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TeamAvengerSep-26-06 12:01 PM
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#29798, "RE: Budget Brake Question"
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Originally posted by TheGhost
Also if I do decide on doing the gsx brake conversion all the way around. How can I mount the emergency brake setup with cutting anything up.


GSX brakes in the rear are the same as GST and GS. The rear disc setup is the same on all non-rs models. To mount the e-brake setup without cutting anything just get the whole e-brake and brake setup from a model with disc brakes. That way you won't have to cut anything. And that is what i did with mine in case you are wondering.

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turbo8uSep-26-06 02:35 PM
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#29799, "RE: Budget Brake Question"
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Sep-26-06 02:39 PM by turbo8u



          

Originally posted by Avenger
Originally posted by TheGhost Also if I do decide on doing the gsx brake conversion all the way around. How can I mount the emergency brake setup with cutting anything up.
GSX brakes in the rear are the same as GST and GS. The rear disc setup is the same on all non-rs models. To mount the e-brake setup without cutting anything just get the whole e-brake and brake setup from a model with disc brakes. That way you won't have to cut anything. And that is what i did with mine in case you are wondering.


actually there are some differences in rotor sizes and thicknesses, the more you look into it the more it pisses you off though. mostly the same though, just make sure you use parts from the same year DSM and youll be ok.

Terry, I only know of a few 1g guys over at tuners with the 3kgt brakes. care to enlighten me (us) with a link for any 2g's with them?

to the original poster:

For a project in school I fabricated caliper brackets and it CAN be done, but here is the thing...

the stock 12.5" rotors are not big enough to let the caliper sit all the way over them and still have the original mounting points mount to the knuckle, they are to close. Either you have to shave the caliper mounting holes down (not such a good idea) or get a larger rotor. I picked up a 13.5" rotor from a 2kgt big brake kit and cut out a peice of 3/8" plate and made it work perfect in no time. This made fitment a hundred times easier, and the pad sat completely over the face of the rotor.

cliff notes: cant be done easily. get 13.5" rotors and PM me.

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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonSep-26-06 02:56 PM
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#29800, "RE: Budget Brake Question"
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Sep-26-06 02:57 PM by Star Turbo Talon



          

Josh its the same principal 1g to 2g. There are more than a few just go search for the thread that was posted this past summer. I personally would have made the brackets a bit nicer. I read it once and dont feel like searching. Sorry, i have had my fill of tuners for a while.

  

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TheGhostSep-27-06 11:21 AM
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#29801, "RE: Budget Brake Question"
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Thanks again for all the post I feel really welcomed being a new member and all. Also thanks for the ebrake assembly tip. I would really like to use vr 4 calipers though I am attracted to the 4 piston set up and I love the idea of have them on my car. Instead of making a bracked get I just get oversized rotors. Again if i seem repetitive i am sorry i just want to learn as much as possible.

  

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foggy45Sep-30-06 12:45 PM
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#29810, "RE: Budget Brake Question"
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if you really want some fun, go EVO brakes
you have to get knuckles from the 2000 Galant
then the big shinny Brembo calipers will bolt right up
i think i have a pic around here somewhere emoji

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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonSep-30-06 02:48 PM
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#29811, "RE: Budget Brake Question"
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Originally posted by foggy45
if you really want some fun, go EVO brakes you have to get knuckles from the 2000 Galant then the big shinny Brembo calipers will bolt right up i think i have a pic around here somewhere emoji


I dont think that will work on a 2g. According to the picture from the dealer sites, the galant uses a lower control arm like the 1g. It only uses 1 lower ball joint and a true mcpherson strut. The strut bolts to the knuckle. Unless I am looking at the wrong picture but its for a 2000 galant.

Terry

  

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VelocitaPaolaSep-30-06 05:19 PM
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#29812, "RE: Budget Brake Question"
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Sep-30-06 05:20 PM by VelocitaPaola

          

Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Josh its the same principal 1g to 2g. There are more than a few just go search for the thread that was posted this past summer. I personally would have made the brackets a bit nicer. I read it once and dont feel like searching. Sorry, i have had my fill of tuners for a while.


Ah... damn, Terry. We always need your help over there. emoji

Here's that thread if you were still looking into using the Stealth/3KGT big brakes...
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184965

  

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#29813, "RE: Budget Brake Question"
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Oct-01-06 04:54 AM by foggy45



          

sorry terry i miss typed

yes the USDM galant knuckles will not work, you have to get the 99+ JDM ones which for some reason has a different suspension set up.
part number MR223628, MR223629



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turbo8uOct-01-06 11:28 AM
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#29814, "RE: Budget Brake Question"
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are those stock EVO rotors as well?

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