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tboneJul-02-07 05:31 PM
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#3287, "A few questions before install,/my eyes are bleeding"


          

ok guys, I am about to install my MSnS, along with my motor and turbo set up.

I will be starting this process next week. I have a week off and I would like to get it back up and running in some fashion in that week.

I still have to order a few things. I need a wideband O2, a wiring harness and the sensors. If anyone can just fill me on on what O2 will work best, but keep in mind that I am on a tight budget.

I was looking at rsautosprot.net for the wiring harness, is this a good harness?

I got my MSnS used and this is what I have so far.


1. MS1 & MS2 CPU
2. Built and tested version 3.0 board
3. Stimulator board
4. RS232 cable
2.5 bar MAP sensor

Im starting to get nervous about this install and I kinda need it to go somewhat smooth. Any help would be great.

Thanks
Tom

98 RS 5spd.

  

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ModeratorbullettdsmJul-03-07 01:46 PM
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#3288, "RE: A few questions before install,/my eyes are bleeding"
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For the wideband, I used the Innovate. It cost me new, around $170ish. But that is without the gauge. Didn't really care that much (about the gage) because I only use it when tuning, so I plug into the laptop. There is software written in MSnS that supports the Innovate.

One word of advice, don't freak out on anything . Just calmly go back over crap until you see it. And if you don't see it; obviously, you know where to ask.

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
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SlushboxJul-07-07 10:59 AM
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#3300, "RE: A few questions before install,/my eyes are bleeding"
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Buying a premade harness definetly makes things easier, just make sure to check the lables to wire colors. I would start w/fuel to get the car running in a decent manner (no to low boost) then move on to spark.

AEM cam gears, .030 over, .020 milled head, Unorthodox UDP, port match intake/head, polished exhaust manifold, e-bay CAI, Magnaflow muffler

1995 GS A/T: Crushed, what started it all
1999 RS M/T: Back to stock
Mazdaspeed6: sold and quazi missed
1999 Eclipse GSX: HX35, waiting for Shep STG3

  

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AdministratorCODE4Jul-14-07 03:51 PM
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#3319, "RE: A few questions before install,/my eyes are bleeding"
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Jul-14-07 03:53 PM by CODE4



          

Innovate LC-1 wideband is a great setup and is what I am running. Very easy to use.

Reference http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/innovate-digital-wideband-controller-with-sensor-p-41.html?osCsid=68b2e27d7b85d8c4919a753d513d6a5c

As for the harness, I would recommend buying one. You think your eyes are bleeding now? I spent a decent chunk of time measuring wires, stripping and soldering to a DB37 connector. And I consider myself proficient at soldering too. Save yourself one less headache if you can afford it.

As for the sensors, I also used some standard T-Fittings for running the MSnS sensors alongside the OEM sensors. Just something to consider.

And the RSAutoSport harness is a good one to go with.

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SlushboxJul-14-07 07:28 PM
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#3321, "RE: A few questions before install,/my eyes are bleeding"
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I second the LC-1. There is a review of widebands on a Ford site where the LC-1 rated #1, not too bad for a sub $200 set-up!

AEM cam gears, .030 over, .020 milled head, Unorthodox UDP, port match intake/head, polished exhaust manifold, e-bay CAI, Magnaflow muffler

1995 GS A/T: Crushed, what started it all
1999 RS M/T: Back to stock
Mazdaspeed6: sold and quazi missed
1999 Eclipse GSX: HX35, waiting for Shep STG3

  

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