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DegreESep-26-05 01:42 PM
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#1399, "Installing SAFC on 95"




          

I searched and found nothing for my topic.

But the 3 different write-ups for the SAFC install were done on the 97-99 2gNTs.

Is the wiring any different for the 95-96? PLease help becasue I want to do this myself instead of paying $100 for the local speedshop to do it for me.

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RE: Installing SAFC on 95, totaleclipse_05, Sep-26-05 04:16 PM, #1
RE: Installing SAFC on 95, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Sep-27-05 05:15 AM, #2
      RE: Installing SAFC on 95, RxR_Eclipse, Sep-27-05 08:18 AM, #3
      RE: Installing SAFC on 95, DegreE, Sep-28-05 12:27 PM, #4
           RE: Installing SAFC on 95, MCubed45, Sep-29-05 03:14 AM, #5
                RE: Installing SAFC on 95, DegreE, Sep-29-05 12:39 PM, #6
                     RE: Installing SAFC on 95, DegreE, Sep-29-05 05:54 PM, #7
                          RE: Installing SAFC on 95, destruckeclipse, Oct-21-05 03:34 PM, #8
      RE: Installing SAFC on 95, DegreE, Sep-28-05 12:26 PM, #9

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#1400, "RE: Installing SAFC on 95"
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i think (don't quote me on this) that the wire colors are all the same, but the location connecting to the ECU are different. Can someone clarify on this?

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#1401, "RE: Installing SAFC on 95"
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Yes. All the colors required for the SAFC are the same across all year models.

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RxR_EclipseSep-27-05 08:18 AM
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#1407, "RE: Installing SAFC on 95"
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I say don't install it at all, but hell that is just me. I have a 95 and had it installed (stupid). Just follow the color codes like Darkone said.

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#1425, "RE: Installing SAFC on 95"
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Originally posted by RxR_Eclipse
I say don't install it at all, but hell that is just me. I have a 95 and had it installed (stupid). Just follow the color codes like Darkone said.




WHat problems did you have?

well the thing is is that with all my mods... I am running a bit rich, and after I get the cam gears i will toss the car onto a dyno and fine tune everything to get ready for spray.

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MCubed45Sep-29-05 03:14 AM
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#1432, "RE: Installing SAFC on 95"
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Originally posted by DegreE
Originally posted by RxR_Eclipse I say don't install it at all, but hell that is just me. I have a 95 and had it installed (stupid). Just follow the color codes like Darkone said.
WHat problems did you have? well the thing is is that with all my mods... I am running a bit rich, and after I get the cam gears i will toss the car onto a dyno and fine tune everything to get ready for spray.


well RxR has the MS installed now. you can't even compare the SAFC to the MS. the SAFC is a piggy back module that sends FALSE information to the ECU to get it to dump more/less fuel. the MS actually CONTROLS the injectors. not a very fair comparison. but then i think the MS hadn't really hit the 2gnt market when he had his SAFC so it's not THAT bad emoji

-marc

  

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#1436, "RE: Installing SAFC on 95"
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Ehhh, well how much is the MS and where can I look up more information about it.



ANyways, this is getting confusing.

I found 3 black wires going to the ECU. I need to find one to use as a ground for the SAFC as stated in the witeup on the MOD page. wtf? Will any one of the 3 work or is it a specific one?

And I cant find a wire for the 02 sensor. It is a white wire with a black stripe, correct? I only found a black wire with a white stripe and I beleive that is my power source.

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#1439, "RE: Installing SAFC on 95"
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nevermind... i got it.


damn, this was easier than my radio install.

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destruckeclipseOct-21-05 03:34 PM
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#1483, "RE: Installing SAFC on 95"
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Lol, yes it's not even hard if you have done any wiring before.

A S-AFC will do if you don't have the cash fro dsm link or Ms, and also will do if you aren't extremely modified. I use mine just to control the car for daily driving, but once I start going track I will for sure get a dsmlink.


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#1424, "RE: Installing SAFC on 95"
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Sorry about misplacing the thread.

I didnt know there was a seperate section for Engine Management Systems & Controllers.


Thanks guys.

<--This is our god... god decides our fate. We shall not upset our god. God can and will ruin our lives if we were to upset him.

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