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PiKapp504Aug-06-05 10:58 AM
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#1142, "034EIC help"


          

Ok folks, I'm FINALLY getting around to installing my 8-injector setup and I've got a few questions. I'm gonna be going with stock primaries and 30lb secondaries. Does anyone have a good map I can use? I've got a decent base map, but I was wondering if anyone had one that was well tuned? I want to run up to 18-20psi and I don't have a wideband to tune by.

Also, I've down a search and I can't find Corbin's 034EIC wiring diagram anywhere! Someone care to hook me up? emoji Thanks in advance!

96 Indy Red Dodge Avenger I4 5spd
225.7whp/227.2wtq @ 10psi, currently running 12-14psi.
HRC Stage III turbo setup
JE 8.8:1 pistons
Eagle rods
block bored .020" over
GReddy FMIC w/ custom piping
1G crushed BOV
SPEC Stage 3 clutch
2.5" DP, 2.5" high flow cat, 3" ERT catback w/ Magnaflow muffler and 3" tip.
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RE: 034EIC help, tim97rs, Aug-06-05 12:40 PM, #1
RE: 034EIC help, Teamner947, Aug-07-05 10:22 AM, #2
      RE: 034EIC help, PiKapp504, Aug-10-05 08:20 AM, #3
           RE: 034EIC help, ModeratorCorbin, Aug-11-05 06:46 AM, #4
                RE: 034EIC help, PiKapp504, Aug-11-05 10:50 AM, #5
                     RE: 034EIC help, PiKapp504, Aug-13-05 10:40 AM, #6
                          RE: 034EIC help, tim97rs, Aug-13-05 11:22 AM, #7
                               RE: 034EIC help, HomeyNY, Aug-13-05 12:12 PM, #8
                                    RE: 034EIC help, Chamuko, Aug-14-05 07:40 PM, #9
                                         RE: 034EIC help, PiKapp504, Jan-12-06 03:01 AM, #10
                                              RE: 034EIC help, tim97rs, Jan-12-06 03:20 AM, #11
                                                   RE: 034EIC help, PiKapp504, Jan-12-06 03:27 AM, #12
                                                        RE: 034EIC help, tim97rs, Jan-12-06 05:17 AM, #13
                                                             RE: 034EIC help, PiKapp504, Jan-12-06 09:49 AM, #14
                                                                  RE: 034EIC help, baxsom, Jan-12-06 12:20 PM, #15
                                                                       RE: 034EIC help, PiKapp504, Mar-01-06 04:35 AM, #16
                                                                            RE: 034EIC help, PiKapp504, Mar-27-06 09:26 AM, #17

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#1143, "RE: 034EIC help"
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here is my map for 16 psi wideband tuned to around 11.0-11.5. but keep in mind, where your located things may be different with pressure and temps and such...

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#1145, "RE: 034EIC help"
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Here's mine too, stock primary injectors, 40lb/hr secondaries, 1:1 regualtor, stock cams, 16G. This was my old map that I used every day before the MS.


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PiKapp504Aug-10-05 08:20 AM
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#1155, "RE: 034EIC help"
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Tim - I have that diagram, but what I was looking for are wiring pictures and what color wires to connect stuff to. Like if I'm using the stock harness for the secondary injectors, which wires are which and where do they connect to the 034EIC. And which wire(s) @ the ECU do I need to tap into for the tach signal, power, etc.

96 Indy Red Dodge Avenger I4 5spd
225.7whp/227.2wtq @ 10psi, currently running 12-14psi.
HRC Stage III turbo setup
JE 8.8:1 pistons
Eagle rods
block bored .020" over
GReddy FMIC w/ custom piping
1G crushed BOV
SPEC Stage 3 clutch
2.5" DP, 2.5" high flow cat, 3" ERT catback w/ Magnaflow muffler and 3" tip.
much much more...

  

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ModeratorCorbinAug-11-05 06:46 AM
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#1158, "RE: 034EIC help"
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Aug-11-05 06:52 AM by Corbin

          

Like this maybe:

http://www.2gnt.com/www/corbin/95ECU.html

You'll have to pick the injector harness apart to see which wire is which. You might also check your EIC connector to see if it matches up to what Tim posted.

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PiKapp504Aug-11-05 10:50 AM
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#1159, "RE: 034EIC help"
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Corbin, care to make a weekend trip and help me install/wire this thing up and tune it? I'm in Lynchburg, VA now...so about 155 miles south of Manassas, straight down 29. And that offer goes for anyone else that's familiar with the 034EIC. Free food, drinks, beer, and a place to crash. Any takers?

And I've got a 96 so my wiring diagram won't be the same as that.

96 Indy Red Dodge Avenger I4 5spd
225.7whp/227.2wtq @ 10psi, currently running 12-14psi.
HRC Stage III turbo setup
JE 8.8:1 pistons
Eagle rods
block bored .020" over
GReddy FMIC w/ custom piping
1G crushed BOV
SPEC Stage 3 clutch
2.5" DP, 2.5" high flow cat, 3" ERT catback w/ Magnaflow muffler and 3" tip.
much much more...

  

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PiKapp504Aug-13-05 10:40 AM
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#1164, "RE: 034EIC help"
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Tim, what injectors were/are you using for your secondaries? If they're not 30lbers, I'll have to adjust a few things.

96 Indy Red Dodge Avenger I4 5spd
225.7whp/227.2wtq @ 10psi, currently running 12-14psi.
HRC Stage III turbo setup
JE 8.8:1 pistons
Eagle rods
block bored .020" over
GReddy FMIC w/ custom piping
1G crushed BOV
SPEC Stage 3 clutch
2.5" DP, 2.5" high flow cat, 3" ERT catback w/ Magnaflow muffler and 3" tip.
much much more...

  

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tim97rsAug-13-05 11:22 AM
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#1165, "RE: 034EIC help"
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Originally posted by PiKapp504
Tim, what injectors were/are you using for your secondaries? If they're not 30lbers, I'll have to adjust a few things.


good point, i am runninig accel 40's

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HomeyNYAug-13-05 12:12 PM
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#1166, "RE: 034EIC help"
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off topic but right forum emoji anyone know how big the srt4 stage 0 injectors are? thats what im using as my secondary ones. thanx





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#1173, "RE: 034EIC help"
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look it up. But note, that they are rated at a higher pressure then our own. Ill try and get the info.

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PiKapp504Jan-12-06 03:01 AM
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#1734, "RE: 034EIC help"
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Which wire on the ECU is the Tach signal? Or is there another location I can tap into that signal? I'm probably going to mount my ECU by the stock computer. I'd love to mount it inside, but I hate running wires and vacuum lines through the firewall.

Also, can I just get that resistor @ Radio Shack?

96 Indy Red Dodge Avenger I4 5spd
225.7whp/227.2wtq @ 10psi, currently running 12-14psi.
HRC Stage III turbo setup
JE 8.8:1 pistons
Eagle rods
block bored .020" over
GReddy FMIC w/ custom piping
1G crushed BOV
SPEC Stage 3 clutch
2.5" DP, 2.5" high flow cat, 3" ERT catback w/ Magnaflow muffler and 3" tip.
much much more...

  

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tim97rsJan-12-06 03:20 AM
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#1735, "RE: 034EIC help"
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Jan-12-06 03:20 AM by tim97rs

          

Originally posted by PiKapp504
Which wire on the ECU is the Tach signal?

solid white wire in ecu bundle, or middle wire on coil harness.

Originally posted by PiKapp504
Also, can I just get that resistor @ Radio Shack?

thats where i got mine!

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PiKapp504Jan-12-06 03:27 AM
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#1736, "RE: 034EIC help"
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Jan-12-06 03:43 AM by PiKapp504

          

SWEET! Ok, what is the power wire for the STOCK ECU as well? I want to make this wiring as simple and painless as possible.

96 Indy Red Dodge Avenger I4 5spd
225.7whp/227.2wtq @ 10psi, currently running 12-14psi.
HRC Stage III turbo setup
JE 8.8:1 pistons
Eagle rods
block bored .020" over
GReddy FMIC w/ custom piping
1G crushed BOV
SPEC Stage 3 clutch
2.5" DP, 2.5" high flow cat, 3" ERT catback w/ Magnaflow muffler and 3" tip.
much much more...

  

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tim97rsJan-12-06 05:17 AM
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#1737, "RE: 034EIC help"
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if i remember correctly, it should be the red one, but i would advise against pulling power from the ECU as it can/has been known to do weird things with it and other sensors.
try a search on that and see what you can find.

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PiKapp504Jan-12-06 09:49 AM
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#1738, "RE: 034EIC help"
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I just don't feel like connecting ANOTHER lead to my battery. That'll make like 4 or 5 things coming off of the battery! LOL I think I need a distribution block for the battery. LOL

96 Indy Red Dodge Avenger I4 5spd
225.7whp/227.2wtq @ 10psi, currently running 12-14psi.
HRC Stage III turbo setup
JE 8.8:1 pistons
Eagle rods
block bored .020" over
GReddy FMIC w/ custom piping
1G crushed BOV
SPEC Stage 3 clutch
2.5" DP, 2.5" high flow cat, 3" ERT catback w/ Magnaflow muffler and 3" tip.
much much more...

  

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baxsomJan-12-06 12:20 PM
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#1739, "RE: 034EIC help"
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how different is the super fueler software shown here than the split second tuning software that you get from hahn
which one is better



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PiKapp504Mar-01-06 04:35 AM
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#1807, "RE: 034EIC help"
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I guess it would all depend on preference. I hear the Port Fueler software is very intuitive. The 034EIC software is a little more intricate (I think) but both give roughly the same amount of control. I don't believe the HRC unit does spark, someone might want to correct me on this however.

96 Indy Red Dodge Avenger I4 5spd
225.7whp/227.2wtq @ 10psi, currently running 12-14psi.
HRC Stage III turbo setup
JE 8.8:1 pistons
Eagle rods
block bored .020" over
GReddy FMIC w/ custom piping
1G crushed BOV
SPEC Stage 3 clutch
2.5" DP, 2.5" high flow cat, 3" ERT catback w/ Magnaflow muffler and 3" tip.
much much more...

  

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PiKapp504Mar-27-06 09:26 AM
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#1916, "RE: 034EIC help"
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Mar-27-06 09:27 AM by PiKapp504

          

Ok, I think I'll be doing this install FINALLY within the next 1-2 weeks. So far, my only concerns are the injector harness and which EXACT resistor to use on the tach signal line. I have a stock injector harness, so I guess I need to take the loom off of it and see which wires go where and splice where I need to splice. And for power, I think I'll just grab a relay and run a power to the + distribution block, the negative to the - distribution block, and the "switch" line to the red cable for the OEM ECU power. Does that sound correct so far? Again, sorry for all the 'tard questions, I just hate doing electrical work.

Almost forgot, I'm still in need of a good base map so I can get started. I've got an AEM UEGO already installed so tuning should be FAIRLY easy. I'll be using stock primaries and 30lb secondaries. Thanks!

96 Indy Red Dodge Avenger I4 5spd
225.7whp/227.2wtq @ 10psi, currently running 12-14psi.
HRC Stage III turbo setup
JE 8.8:1 pistons
Eagle rods
block bored .020" over
GReddy FMIC w/ custom piping
1G crushed BOV
SPEC Stage 3 clutch
2.5" DP, 2.5" high flow cat, 3" ERT catback w/ Magnaflow muffler and 3" tip.
much much more...

  

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