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gotboost2394May-10-05 03:51 PM
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#89224, "What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."


          

So i pull out the plugs from my motor today to find wear on them that i have never seen before in any of my previous cars plugs, im attaching pictures instead of describing them so you can see for yourselves. Can anyone diagnose why they wore this way? This isnt normal is it? For the record I didn't put the Iridiums in, the previous owner did. I will be buying NGK's, should i buy the regular ESI ones or the TSI replacements since i have a turbo put on?

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RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...., siueclipse, May-10-05 04:14 PM, #1
RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...., cougar694u, May-11-05 04:06 AM, #2
RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...., Kirby, May-11-05 05:00 AM, #3
      RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...., whodatt1, May-11-05 05:06 AM, #4
           RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...., thedawg, May-11-05 05:36 AM, #5
                RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...., SPL_Eclipse, May-11-05 08:06 PM, #6
                RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...., gotboost2394, May-12-05 10:30 AM, #7
                     RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...., thedawg, May-12-05 10:49 AM, #8
                          RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...., gotboost2394, May-12-05 04:19 PM, #9
                               RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...., thedawg, May-13-05 12:00 PM, #10
                                    RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...., grain, May-13-05 06:45 PM, #11
                                         RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...., thedawg, May-16-05 05:48 AM, #12
                                              RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...., GSGoinFast, May-16-05 07:12 AM, #13
                                                   RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...., thedawg, May-16-05 07:45 AM, #14
                                                        RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...., GSGoinFast, May-16-05 08:19 AM, #15

siueclipseMay-10-05 04:14 PM
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#89226, "RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."
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no pictures.



  

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cougar694uMay-11-05 04:06 AM
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#89244, "RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."
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Originally posted by gotboost2394
So i pull out the plugs from my motor today to find wear on them that i have never seen before in any of my previous cars plugs, im attaching pictures instead of describing them so you can see for yourselves. Can anyone diagnose why they wore this way? This isnt normal is it? For the record I didn't put the Iridiums in, the previous owner did. I will be buying NGK's, should i buy the regular ESI ones or the TSI replacements since i have a turbo put on? http://img77.echo.cx/img77/3866/sparkplug4ke.jp g


It just likes like it's running really rich, but it's hard from only looking at a picture that's not very well lit. How many miles are on the plugs?

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KirbyMay-11-05 05:00 AM
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#89247, "RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."
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Just replace them with the NGK BKR7E'S. As for the plugs I can't see them, so what's wrong with them?



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#89248, "RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."
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that is one super dirty plug.. did you drop it on the ground or what? seems like its been in there for a while, and from the dark picture seems like there is a lot of carbon on it. can't see much more.

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thedawgMay-11-05 05:36 AM
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#89253, "RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."
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May-11-05 05:41 AM by thedawg

          

Looks like a normal high-mileage iridium plug. Just get BKR-7E *IF* you have a turbokit (.028 gap). Champion RC9YC5/NGK BKR6E-11 (.045 gap) if you're nonturbo.

  

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SPL_EclipseMay-11-05 08:06 PM
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#89295, "RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."
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id be more concerned with the look of those threads. either theres a horrible combustion irregularity or someone went loco with the ratchet installing those things.

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gotboost2394May-12-05 10:30 AM
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#89316, "RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."
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okay i am turbo so i will get the bkr7e-11's. As for the threads, the person who put them in must have a been a body builder or something.

  

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thedawgMay-12-05 10:49 AM
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#89318, "RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."
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Jesus fucking christ.

Where at any point in this thread did you read the numbers "-11"?

BKR7E is a turbo gapped plug appropriate for our engines when turbocharged.
BKR7E-11 is a nonturbo gapped plug that has no application on our motors short of a $5,000 custom ignition for a drag race motor.

The two are absolutely not interchangable.

I'm only flipping out because I've posted this about a hundred times. Search the archives if you dont believe me. emoji

  

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gotboost2394May-12-05 04:19 PM
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#89330, "RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."
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I have to go cancel my order now, but to prove to you that i am not a complete dumbass, i found that on this very site under the HRC Stage II part upgrade list. Heres the link http://www.2gnt.com/nuke/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=30

I just wrote the place i ordered from to exchange them since they are the same price, and i thank you for pointing it out or i wouldve been killing myself about my car still running like shit.

  

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thedawgMay-13-05 12:00 PM
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#89377, "RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."
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Originally posted by gotboost2394i found that on this very site


Cool, I emailed the moderators to change it. emoji

No wonder it keeps coming up, lol!

  

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grainMay-13-05 06:45 PM
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#89396, "RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."
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i run the bkr7e-11 plug on my engine gapped to .031

what say you?

  

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thedawgMay-16-05 05:48 AM
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#89462, "RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."
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Originally posted by grain
i run the bkr7e-11 plug on my engine gapped to .031 what say you?


The manufacturer recommends that you tinyurl.com/2pzgc because the electrodes can become misaligned, cause uneven wear, or even break off. Since your bkr7e-11's came pre-gapped at .045", you had to adjust your gap .014" which is nearly double the manufacturer's recommended maximum.

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=26&topic_id=342&mesg_id=342&page=#348

For evidence, see Dougie's post in that thread from a year ago. He's running bkr7e-11's there. He also later dropped a spark plug electrode into a cylinder and fucked a JE piston.

  

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GSGoinFastMay-16-05 07:12 AM
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#89464, "RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."
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Originally posted by thedawg
Originally posted by grain i run the bkr7e-11 plug on my engine gapped to .031 what say you?
The manufacturer recommends that you tinyurl.com/2pzgc because the electrodes can become misaligned, cause uneven wear, or even break off. Since your bkr7e-11's came pre-gapped at .045", you had to adjust your gap .014" which is nearly double the manufacturer's recommended maximum. http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=26&topic_id=342&mesg_id=342&page=#348 For evidence, see Dougie's post in that thread from a year ago. He's running bkr7e-11's there. He also later dropped a spark plug electrode into a cylinder and fucked a JE piston.


interesting... ive been running the 11's for over a year gapped to .035 and .030 and have not had any problems at all emoji

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thedawgMay-16-05 07:45 AM
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#89465, "RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."
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Originally posted by GSGoinFastive been running the 11's and have not had any problems at all emoji

There are people running 150 shot of nitrous on a stock motor without problems either. emoji

Hell, you can run sparkplugs from a lawnmower if they thread in right. They may not give you quite as much power, but hey, they'll run just fine.

For me, its a matter of whether I want to do the research, spend the whopping $8 and buy the right part number... or throw in the wrong part for my application, run it outside the manufacturers spec, and risk my $3000 engine.

To each his own I guess.

  

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GSGoinFastMay-16-05 08:19 AM
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#89468, "RE: What is going inside my motor?! Look at these spark plugs guys...."
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Originally posted by thedawg
Originally posted by GSGoinFastive been running the 11's and have not had any problems at all emoji
There are people running 150 shot of nitrous on a stock motor without problems either. emoji Hell, you can run sparkplugs from a lawnmower if they thread in right. They may not give you quite as much power, but hey, they'll run just fine. For me, its a matter of whether I want to do the research, spend the whopping $8 and buy the right part number... or throw in the wrong part for my application, run it outside the manufacturers spec, and risk my $3000 engine. To each his own I guess.


well the NGK website said for colder, just go up one number. the recommended plug for my car was the BKR6E-11, so i just got the BKR7E-11. oh well, ill know this for next time, since i just put some new ones in

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