im going to be using a wideband for tuning. j/w what ya'll thought about this http://www.plxdevices.com/R-500_productinfo.htm

=Dan=



98rs eclipse- Mods: BC2, C/F hood, custom turbo system consisting of a PTE SC50, turbosmart ultra gate (10psi), star FMIC and pipes, SFMU, HKS SSQV, 3" V-BAND downpipe from ATP, Zeitronix Wideband LCD displaying boost, egt and 02. *** SOLD and will be missed***

2006 gsxr 750- jardine gp1 exhaust, -1,+2 stealth sprockets, DID 525 chain, JD products pro TRE. 0-60 in a sneeze. ran a 10.8 avg 1/4 mile my first time to the track on street tires, stock swingarm and unstrapped.

looks nice, but for the money you can do a lot better.
www.innovatemotorsports.com

LM-1 with aux box

USED TO HAVE...Everything you wish you had, and then some...

You are somebody special Tim, you matter! - from the admins (but nobody likes you, because your username is just like that other guy's, and you whine a lot)

I use www.wbo2.com.......cost me 250.00

Terry

look at the zeitronix also
279 and has datalogging capabilities

1996 eclipse GS-T
1968 Ford Mustang
2004 Suzuki GSXR600
2006 Honda CBR1000RR
Decisions Decisions

i think they all have datlaogging capabilities. i liek the WBo2 because when you register it for 20.00 it will produce a matrix of your AFR in a table. you can chose your x/y axis but most people are using RPM against MAP values. Makes tuning a ve table easier.

Terry

Dyno Jet's Wideband Commander here.

The Techedge wbo2 is inaccurate and hardly anyone can get trustworthy readings from the extra 0 to 5 volt inputs or the thermalcouplers.

I mostly went with the Dynojet unit because of the autometer like PRORAMMABLE 2 1/16 gauge for my pillar. No need to have software running unless you want to log it and you can be sure you are safe all the time.

Techedge does have a similar gauge out, but they have no date for release at this time and doesn't look good to me.

On the wbo2 you have to define the readings you get. you need to input the resistance/voltage values and what they are equivelant to. if your getting an inaccurate reading then i would say you inputted the wrong values or not enough of them.



Terry

do all the sensors mentioned have a regular narrow band output? like can all of them replace the stock o2? i need a new o2 sensor and i also need a wide band and if i can get the wideband without having to buy another stock one too it would be coolness

Joe
MFG Racing

95 GS
MSnS
FP3052 coming soon.


http://www.dsmregistry.com/detail.php?carid=1107

http://www.cardomain.com/id/95turbogs

can you ellaborate on the resistor mod aspect? what resistor? I am ignorant.

EDIT: http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm this one i just found out has the simulated narrow band output for the stock ecu too... does it require any sort of mod?

Joe
MFG Racing

95 GS
MSnS
FP3052 coming soon.


http://www.dsmregistry.com/detail.php?carid=1107

http://www.cardomain.com/id/95turbogs

priesh, points for not flaming me and good info.

You can use the wideband to replace the stock o2. once installed you will use the simulated Narrowband output of the unit and run that to the factory ECU. the Tech edge unit has a simulated output and i am sure most others do as well.

I have no idea why James says you cant, he is wrong, but if you look into the wideband units you will see there are narrowband outputs in most of them.

Terry

-Chris
1999 Eclipse T-GS


2.4 Project is Officially underway

I think most of them think its garbage... thats what I've heard anyway. I have a friend that runs one and likes it but thats the only wide band he has experience with I think... thats all I know.

I know AMS (company in illinois makes awesome 500HP+ evo's,etc..) uses the AEM uego with gauge and EMS unit
and love it.

1998 dodge avenger 4 cyl AT
Mods are:
Not enough

New Car:
2004 350z base, Nismo CAI, pioneer avic-n1 (dvd, cd, navi)



Old Car:
1998 GS with hrc stage 2, HID 6000k conversion kit, AEM UEGO wideband, sfmu, ml, prokits, Greddy warning gauges: egt, boost gauge, and oil pressure, apexi tt, haydans tranny cooler, costum dp, groundwires, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler
Boostin since Aug 03.

nothing like driving with the windows down and the music low: i love hearing the turbo spool, swwwhhhttt!!!!

-Chris
1999 Eclipse T-GS


2.4 Project is Officially underway

Sorry I was misreading the post. I said that you cannot replace a stock o2 with a wideband, but what i didn't mention was that you can use the narrow band output.

I dont like the idea of doing it but you can. Just add another bung.

Yeah, I use the AEM UEGO gauge type wideband, and i like it, for the most part..It doesnt really have any logging capability, which if you run this with a stock computer, your sort of out of luck there..Now that i have the megasquirt, the logging feature doesnt matter now. The gauge itself looks great and matches my Autometer sport comp gauges almost perfectly, so i like that. This gauge is expensive for what you get though, as there are MANY other cheaper options out there. As far as I can tell, the gauge is accurate within .1-.2 AFR, as it was always around 14.7:1 when it ran on the stock ECU, during closed loop control.

I'm also using this wideband with the Megasquirt for closed loop feedback control. It's been working very well, and the MS seems to keep really close to the target A/F voltage during closed loop.

One thing i also want to mention, I tried to use this gauge's simulated analog narrowband output to run the stock ECU, instead of the stock o2 sensor. The gauge's calibration screw was set to the narrowband output on it's white wire, and connected it to the o2 sensor wire at the stock ECU. The motor/ECU did NOT like this at all, and ran very, very bad, and extremely lean. I know it's possible to do this with these widebands, so I dont know if it was an issue with this gauge, or that the ECU just doesnt like the type of signal the AEM puts out for narrowband.

13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!)
S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential
fuel injection)
My webpage: http://eclipsed4evr.home.comcast.net
-1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-T- "Toy"
-1992 Plymouth Laser Turbo AWD(SOLD)
-2000 Honda CR-V(daily)

-Chris
1999 Eclipse T-GS


2.4 Project is Officially underway

Resistor mod is just for the CEL code for not having a o2 sensor hooked up, for the sensor heater circuit. That has nothing to do with the actual signal going to the computer for A/F ratio. o2 sensor signal wire is a white wire, which would be connected to the AEM gague's white output wire. I just unplugged my stock o2, then tapped into the stock white wire at the ECU, from the AEM..

13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!)
S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential
fuel injection)
My webpage: http://eclipsed4evr.home.comcast.net
-1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-T- "Toy"
-1992 Plymouth Laser Turbo AWD(SOLD)
-2000 Honda CR-V(daily)

I'm not sure why more people don't run the Zeitronix Zt-2, it's the shiznit hehe. I guess maybe it's just like the new kid on the block, and everyone's scared to go talk to him. Buy the optional EGT probe, and it'll monitor and datalog that as well. It all looks to cool on the also optional pimp lcd screen.

-Xavier-
95 Eclipse RS-T...lost in the frozen tundra

A vote for the Zietronix Zt-2.

A few of the guys in the local AZSRT-4 club run it and it's a pretty nifty little unit so I had my buddy order one so I can install it first hand and see if I like it (which I'm sure I will). Datalogging (9 hours worth) and multiple inputs make it quite versatile (boost, EGT, wb-O2, ect). Now to find a place to mount it....

__________________________________________
~Chris
03 SRT-4

Hmmm... Trying to make my decision. It between the Commander and the AEM. HELP ME OUT MATT!

-Travis

Nevermind, Im getting the Zietronix. LOL

-Travis

Evo 8 - 12.3@113 circa 2009 (~330whp)
Now with BB Xona Rotor HTZ FP Red and ~450whp
2018 MSM Civic SI Ktuner TSP stage 1 w/ Honda hacked headunit.