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frenchmanApr-15-05 03:32 AM
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#88290, "conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"


          

Hi
I'm french and in europe we have only the GS model (with 4g63)..
I found many parts of GSX and the seller told me that it was possible to convert a GS to a gsx..

He has 1 4g63t
1 ecu
1 transmission
axles
clutch
complet rear diff.
drive shaft
water pump
alternator

Questions :
-Do you think it's possible to do the conversion with this parts?
-Do I have to buy any other parts ?
-Do I need necessary all this parts ?(clutch transmission axles water pump alternator or mine are goods (parts on my GS)

Please help me I don't know how US eclipses are (GSX and GS-T)
Great thanks at all
Have a nice day
Sorry if my english is bad..
kiss !!

  

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RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Apr-15-05 03:38 AM, #1
RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, eclipsekaiser, Apr-15-05 03:51 AM, #2
RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, GSGoinFast, Apr-15-05 03:54 AM, #3
      RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Apr-15-05 04:17 AM, #4
           RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, Uberingram, Apr-15-05 04:26 AM, #5
           RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, a_miller_76, Apr-15-05 05:03 AM, #6
                RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, Uberingram, Apr-15-05 05:41 AM, #7
                     RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, frenchman, Apr-15-05 06:19 AM, #8
                          RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, turbo8u, Apr-15-05 06:23 AM, #9
                          RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, SILVERNT, Apr-15-05 06:35 AM, #10
                          RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, turbo8u, Apr-15-05 06:40 AM, #11
                          RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, Collente, Apr-15-05 06:39 AM, #12
                          RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, Uberingram, Apr-15-05 06:34 AM, #13
                               RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, thedawg, Apr-15-05 07:58 AM, #14
                                    RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, ez, Apr-15-05 09:05 AM, #15
                                         RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, 420a-Tnthewerks, Apr-15-05 09:35 AM, #16
                                              RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, kelvinb1, Apr-17-05 08:37 AM, #17
                                                   RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, frenchman, Apr-18-05 01:50 AM, #18
                                                        RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, CustomGS, Apr-18-05 11:22 AM, #19
                                                             RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, cougar694u, Apr-19-05 02:31 AM, #20
                                                                  RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, Talontaxi, Apr-19-05 07:28 PM, #21
                                                                       RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, a_miller_76, Apr-20-05 01:44 AM, #22
                                                                            RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, wite96gs, Apr-20-05 08:16 AM, #23
                                                                            RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????, Talontaxi, Apr-21-05 06:50 PM, #24

AdministratorStar Turbo TalonApr-15-05 03:38 AM
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#88291, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Apr-15-05 03:39 AM by Star Turbo Talon



          

Wow interesting to know that the GS in europe has a 4g motor. How is the motor oriented? Are the Accy pullies on the drivers side...if so you can prolly do the swap. You would be following the gs-t to gsx swap guidelines really. more than likely you would need everythign under the hood for the turbo motor swap. probably the harness ECU and sensors/relays ect. This is not going to be easy. Unfortuneatly most of us have a different non turbo motor so we cant really supply you with all the details you will need.

Look up the 99 galant non turbo to turbo swap. that is a swap some have done with taking the 99 non turbo to a turbo. do that then look up the gst-gsx conversion. you are doing 2 conversions at once so you are looking at double the work.

I wonder how hard it is to import a gs from europe over here?

Good luck and keep us post with pictures

Terry

  

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#88294, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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I believe this is one exception where someone can ask " can i turn my GS to a GST"

If I remember correctly it can be done.

-K-

  

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#88295, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Wow interesting to know that the GS in europe has a 4g motor. How is the motor oriented? Are the Accy pullies on the drivers side...if so you can prolly do the swap. You would be following the gs-t to gsx swap guidelines really. more than likely you would need everythign under the hood for the turbo motor swap. probably the harness ECU and sensors/relays ect. This is not going to be easy. Unfortuneatly most of us have a different non turbo motor so we cant really supply you with all the details you will need. Look up the 99 galant non turbo to turbo swap. that is a swap some have done with taking the 99 non turbo to a turbo. do that then look up the gst-gsx conversion. you are doing 2 conversions at once so you are looking at double the work. I wonder how hard it is to import a gs from europe over here? Good luck and keep us post with pictures Terry



you didnt know the euro spec had a 4g63? well its set up basically the same way, from pics ive seen everything is in the same place.

You're going to need a new fuel tank also, along with some other things. check out dsmtuners.com, you will find much more help there since this topic is all 4g63 oriented... did that dude just kiss us??

-Chris
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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonApr-15-05 04:17 AM
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#88296, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Yes he did.....the gay little frenchies over there kiss everyone.........just kidding


You mean the 4g in the european nt is setup like ours or just like a 1g.

Terry

  

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#88297, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
You mean the 4g in the european nt is setup like ours or just like a 1g. Terry


They have a 4G63 NT in the GS models. Most of it will work with a little time and effort. I think you'll have to fuck with the gas tank though.

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#88298, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Yes he did.....the gay little frenchies over there kiss everyone.........just kidding You mean the 4g in the european nt is setup like ours or just like a 1g. Terry


Yeah the euro-spec 2gnt is the 4g63 NT which means to turbo it you have to do a lot more than just slap on a manifold and t25 from a GST. There's a write-up on dsmtuners.com about it I believe.

  

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#88299, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Originally posted by a_miller_76
Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon Yes he did.....the gay little frenchies over there kiss everyone.........just kidding You mean the 4g in the european nt is setup like ours or just like a 1g. Terry
Yeah the euro-spec 2gnt is the 4g63 NT which means to turbo it you have to do a lot more than just slap on a manifold and t25 from a GST. There's a write-up on dsmtuners.com about it I believe.

...and the turbo ECU, a knock sensor, etc. There is a list of things to turn into a GST quite easily and the list is short. He'll be boosting on stock internals though. Creating a GSX is another story though. The undercarriage does not match a true GSX and one would still have to do some fabricating for the drive shaft, rear diff, etc. That not being so easy.

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frenchmanApr-15-05 06:19 AM
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#88302, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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4 pics..





Les photos de l'interieure :


I did not understood every one but I think that the most important is ok in my mid :

-I kiss you ...French dancers are all gays !!!!!
-My 4g63 is in the same position that 4g63t but not like 420A
So you prefer me to search for a galant conversion topic ..
-the conversion 4g63 => 4g63t is easy
-The Gst = > GSX conversion is a lot of labour because I must modify the car..
-I'm not sur to understand the question about sell my européan model to USA ...
Why ????The € is to high at the moment and in europe, japan cars are not as chip as in USA...A car like mine with 120 k miles (1996) is about 12 000e (12000€ x 1.25 I think = Price in bucks)
-I did not understood why one of you want to "fuck a tank fuel" haha

Thanks at all for your answers
Have a nice weekend
Bye

  

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#88303, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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french dont use turbos...germans do emoji

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#88305, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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i like this guy!

  

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#88307, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Originally posted by SILVERNT
i like this guy!


why dont you kiss him back ya fruit? emoji

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#88306, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Originally posted by turbo8u
french dont use turbos...germans do emoji


lol nice!

Nick
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#88304, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Apr-15-05 06:34 AM by Uberingram

          

Originally posted by frenchman
the conversion 4g63 => 4g63t is easy

Correct in the sense of converting your GS into a GS-T. All you're doing is adding compenents to your existing drivetrain.

Originally posted by frenchman
-The Gst = > GSX conversion is a lot of labour because I must modify the car..

There are lots of differences between a 4G63 powered GS-T and a 4G63 powered GSX. Namely everything tranny back. lol. The tranny is slightly different (I think), You have no rear drive shaft nor the compenents for the rear differential. I'm not saying it's impossible but there is going to be some fabrication involved. It will not be a bolt on affair.

Originally posted by frenchman
I did not understood why one of you want to "fuck a tank fuel" haha



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#88310, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Apr-15-05 08:00 AM by thedawg

          

Frenchie- Search the internet (not your shitty minitel emoji heheheh) for information on Eclipse Spyder turbo conversions or 4g64 turbo. It's the same process.

And "fucking with a gas tank" is slang for changing it around several times until it works.

The conversion you are proposing HAS been done, but it costs about as much as the car does... and that's if everything goes right.
http://roadraceengineering.com/eclipsetech/awd2gconversion/

  

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#88312, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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ha ha this thread cracks me up. Hey dood can't you buy one of those Peugot 206's over there? Those things own! That's what I would do instead of spending all that $$$ to change a GS into a GSX. sorry to derail your thread though - I'll ferme la bouche now.

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#88316, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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I gave you a list of things in the last post you made..

(this is for the N/T 4g63 to a turbo 4g63)
You will need:

"exhaust manifold
turbo
oil pan
all new oil lines and coolant lines for the turbo
oil drain pipe for the turbo to the oil pan
turbo ECU
possibly certain parts of the turbo car wiring harness
knock sensor
turbo cams (maybe)
new intake pipe
new MAS
air can
intercooler
intercooler piping (both lower and upper)
new exhaust (downpipe being the most important part)
all gaskets, o-rings, copper washers, bolts, nuts, etc

You will need a wastegate that can make the turbo run less than 10psi seeing as the pistons in the non-turbo block are higher compression and are not the same material as the turbo pistons. This screws up everything having to do with timing and the turbo ECU all together.

It will be Much, much easier to install a whole turbo 4G63 engine rather than bolting on parts. You will be limited to 8-10psi with a turbo on your stock block. It will end up being cheaper to drop in a 6 bolt 4G63t too."(Jeff99gs)

Now, except to make it a GSX you will also need the GSX transmission, driveshaft, rearend and gas tank I believe.

  

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#88376, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Apr-17-05 08:37 AM by kelvinb1



          

omg wtf search! jk. i found this though

http://www.automotivearticles.com/AWD_Conversion.shtml

  

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#88393, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Thanks every body..
All links and answers are great
I will swap my GS with a 4g63t at first..

  

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#88422, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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So.....is the euro spec 4g63nt the same as the 4g64 in our spyders?
My guess is probably close but slightly different displacement, correct? Sorry im an exterior and 420a guy. Not to mention the 69' Camaro im picking u emoji

Chris
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#88457, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Originally posted by CustomGS
So.....is the euro spec 4g63nt the same as the 4g64 in our spyders? My guess is probably close but slightly different displacement, correct? Sorry im an exterior and 420a guy. Not to mention the 69' Camaro im picking u emoji


4g63 = 2.0l
4g64 = 2.4l

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#88507, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Did anyone notice the mirrors in frenchmans sig? Are they eurospec or just aftermarket?

  

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#88508, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Originally posted by Talontaxi
Did anyone notice the mirrors in frenchmans sig? Are they eurospec or just aftermarket?


That's the mirrors they put on Eclipse's they shipped to Europe and Japan. They also have amber cornered tail lenses.

  

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#88520, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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it has side marker lights on the front fenders too.

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#88586, "RE: conversion eclipse GS => GSX ??????????"
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Originally posted by a_miller_76
Originally posted by Talontaxi Did anyone notice the mirrors in frenchmans sig? Are they eurospec or just aftermarket?
That's the mirrors they put on Eclipse's they shipped to Europe and Japan. They also have amber cornered tail lenses.


Do you know of anywhere I can lay my hands on some or something similar, I really like those.

  

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