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mcgyvrAug-25-04 04:14 AM
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#79591, "Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"


          

I know most of us build our motors for high end HP and torque but Im really looking for suggestions on how to build a motor with lots of low end torque, high end is great but I want a nice street motor, something that will perform great under 50 mph. Im not into 1/4 mile drags but want a motor that will be nice on the street where I barely ever see speeds over 50mph. suggestions?? any option is welcome, small turbo's/higher compression,etc..

1998 dodge avenger 4 cyl AT
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Not enough

  

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RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, WickedESi, Aug-25-04 05:59 AM, #1
RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, mcgyvr, Aug-25-04 06:26 AM, #2
      RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, Dave41079, Aug-25-04 06:33 AM, #3
           RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, mcgyvr, Aug-25-04 06:36 AM, #4
                RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, turbo8u, Aug-25-04 07:26 AM, #5
                     RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, soulcontroller, Aug-25-04 07:27 AM, #6
                          RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, talonguy2005, Aug-25-04 08:35 AM, #7
                               RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, InFiNiT3, Aug-25-04 08:38 AM, #8
                                    RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, TeamMichael_97RS, Aug-25-04 09:32 AM, #9
                                         RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, TeamAvenger, Aug-25-04 09:42 AM, #10
                                              RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Aug-25-04 09:56 AM, #11
                                                   RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, TeamAvenger, Aug-25-04 10:04 AM, #12
                                                        RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, Chamuko, Aug-25-04 05:13 PM, #13
                                                             RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, totaleklipse97, Aug-25-04 05:35 PM, #14
                                                                  RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, 2point4, Aug-25-04 09:38 PM, #15
                                                                       RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?, WIKKI, Aug-26-04 02:33 PM, #16

WickedESiAug-25-04 05:59 AM
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#79595, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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Large turbo, low compression.


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mcgyvrAug-25-04 06:26 AM
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#79599, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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Originally posted by WickedESi
Large turbo, low compression.


what? thats the exact opposite of what I want, I want power down low, I dont want to wait for the turbo to spool. I want power in the 2000-4000 rpm range. with full torque as soon as possible. I dont care if the motor falls dead after 4000rpm's, my car never sees high rpm's, never sees over 80mph ever. I want a motor where I can give it gas from a light and have good usable torque right away.
I was thinking more along the lines of longer/smaller intake runners,cams that give me low end torque,etc..

1998 dodge avenger 4 cyl AT
Mods are:
Not enough

  

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Dave41079Aug-25-04 06:33 AM
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#79600, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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Displacement + nitrous. I think the intake runners are plenty long enough as is.



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mcgyvrAug-25-04 06:36 AM
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#79601, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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no nitrous.

small turbo's okay, everything else is okay, but nothing that I have to fill up everyother day.

and I want to keep the 2.0L motor.

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turbo8uAug-25-04 07:26 AM
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#79606, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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more displacement

do a 2.4 swap and burnout into 4th. now THATS low end torque. then turbo it and watch the torque curve perk right up

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soulcontrollerAug-25-04 07:27 AM
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#79607, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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t25 on a 2.2 stroker? hmmm.

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talonguy2005Aug-25-04 08:35 AM
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#79611, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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small turbo, 2.4 swap, with long rods, higher compression pistons, and some nitrous for fun.



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#79613, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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nothing over 50 mph? get out with a few buddys and start pushin!!! lol oh wait thats my car!

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#79621, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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Higher compression, mild cams, stock TB, Long tube header, 2.2L would be nice. 2.25"-2.5" exhaust.

Drop some weight on the car, make the engine work less to pull our heavy ass beast.

If you want turbo, get a small one.

HRC Stage 2 with a 16G on 10.5:1 should have power just about everywhere, especially if it's a 2.2L.



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TeamAvengerAug-25-04 09:42 AM
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#79623, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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2.0L rebuild with stock compression. Custom turbo kit with a FP Big28. 'Nuff said.

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#79624, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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Originally posted by Avenger
2.0L rebuild with stock compression. Custom turbo kit with a FP Big28. 'Nuff said.


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#79625, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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Originally posted by DarkOne
Originally posted by Avenger 2.0L rebuild with stock compression. Custom turbo kit with a FP Big28. 'Nuff said.
Ot just a 13b emoji


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#79643, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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#79648, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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go with stock compression and a "small" turbo like a 16g. you will spool low but not bad enough you won't get any traction. Look into some nice tranny mods to get the power to the wheels. Only thing about cams is that you notice most of the change in the higher RPM's. Don't do a shit load of porting on the head either cause that just supports high end and won't do much for you at lower RPM.

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#79661, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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i heard the non turbo pt cruiser's tranny has more torque than ours and drops in. figured that be good for n/a, right? ...chris

  

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#79696, "RE: Suggestions to build a low end torque streetable motor?"
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more stroke = lower torque.

I would opt for a long rod piston and rod set/w possibly some #14 cams. any boost will help with the lower end torque.
also, I know that you are conservative with your A604, but a higher stall converter is really nice. I have a 3000 stall and find it to be very streetable. it seems to be pretty close to normal during normal easy driving.

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