I know it is nearly retarded to do this swap because of the money issue and all, but if you were going to attempt it, what would you need?

engine, tranny, ecu, wiring, axles??

I'm selling my 420a block i was building because of finical issues, and in about a year I will be able to get back into it, and I was wondering what I would need to do to do the swap, or if I should just save up to get a GST. THanks for your help, and please save the crap for somewhere else.

98 GS Eclipse

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You need a complete wrecked GST. Cut the whole front clip off of it, weld it onto your 2GNT. Wire everything.

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What happened to that guy on the board here who actually did the swap and had pics? It ran too.

Yeah he dropped a 6 bolt in though...even more work. The very first guy who did it posted here a year ago but the car caught fire 8 months later. totally unrelated to the swap though. It can be done but the work and money is a lot. The guy with the 6 bolt claimed to spend 3000. which i guess is poss but it would take you a long time to piece together some misc parts for cheap from a 2g. he has a 1g donor.

Terry

96 Eagle talon ESI
Star Stage II - Boost/oil/EGT gauges

97 Eclipse
Greddy header - Apexi N1 3" exhaust - SFMU/return line - Apexi SAFC - Stage 2 6 puck Sprung hub MIBA clutch - Shortened shifter - Koni Yellows w/eibach prokit - Stillen Fr/Rr swaybars - ceramic intake - DEI Keyless entry alarm - Niche 17" Shoks

Waiting to be installed: HKS EVC IV, 450 Turbo injectors, GSX Front brakes (need rotors)

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or you can save time and frustration and give me your car... I'll give you a cookie.

(not trying to be mean, just giving a response appropriate to this question) I used to think that would work also, until I searched this forum... to the point where it said either buy a turbo kit or sell the car for a GST/TSi or GSX/TSi AWD.

good luck in whatever you choose.

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Why do people continue to ask stupid questions and then try to ward off reactions by posting a "save the crap" disclaimer.

Just buy a 4G63 - in the long run they have more potential than our cars anyway.

1999 Eclipse GST 4G63

if most people really think about it. to do this engine swap yourself, you need alot of mechanical/welding skills. and if you have that much skill, you can def rebuild and run a standalone on the 420a. the only downfall is our stock ecu not liking boost. after a rebuild, and ecu, the 4g63 isnt much better.

I never really noticed , but we really do get one or two 4g63 swap Questions a day...

Steve-o
Top secret.

Originally posted by FlyinEsi
I guess I'll just have to live with a 500+ hp AWD 4-banger.

I know that the swap isn't that reasonable, I just needed to get out that I was selling my 420a block, headcasting with all stock parts, ti springs and retainers and polished valve cover. Apperantly I worded my question wrong and more people cared about the 4g63 part, then the motor for sale. I put an add in the For Sale/wanted to buy section, but figured it wont hurt to addvertise here too.

98 GS Eclipse

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Not sure how much time you have spent here but one rule is not to post in the wrong forum. Dont doit again we take it personal and the response you get wil be the opposite of what you wanted, especially when it involves a 4 g swap. I can not believe dino didnt just lock this from the start

Terry

96 Eagle talon ESI
Greddy header - Greddy exhaust

97 Eclipse
Star Stage II - Boost/oil/EGT gauges - Apexi N1 3" exhaust - SFMU/return line - Apexi SAFC - Stage 2 6 puck Sprung hub MIBA clutch - Shortened shifter - Koni Yellows w/eibach prokit - Stillen Fr/Rr swaybars - ceramic intake - DEI Keyless entry alarm - Niche 17" Shoks

Waiting to be installed: HKS EVC IV, 450 Turbo injectors, GSX Front brakes (need rotors)

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Lets just say this... I'm over 100whp and soon to cross 200whp. Thanx 2GNT! Now if I could only learn to prove it.

The first thing you would need to do in order to find out what is needed (besides a lot of money and time), is to use the search. This inane question has vome up at least 50 times so far this month between here and toonerz.

I didn't releaize that it was such a big deal. I appoligize for it. If I talked about my engine so much then I would have been obvisiouly posting in the wrong section. So by mentioning it and leaving it at just that, it appereaed to be a post about a 4g63 question. Again, I appoligize.

But, would it be possible to just bolt the subframe of a gst to the front of your gs/rs? Not trying to be a smartass I was just wondering.

This post is also a good way to find who here is actually willing to help someone, and who is just going to be an ass about it.

98 GS Eclipse

Like DR said, the searc function is going to help you a helluva lot more than anyone posting a response. Have you ever even looked at a 4g63 car next to a 420a car. It's more than the crossmember that's different. A lot more.

Lets just say this... I'm over 100whp and soon to cross 200whp. Thanx 2GNT! Now if I could only learn to prove it.

Yes, but it is an extremely difficult and very expensive operation. It would be necessary to change the motor mounts, install a GS-T tranny, and finally change the whole wiring harness and ECU. It would be better to sell the car and just buy a GS-T. Here is a breakdown of the components and approximate costs:

1. 4G63 turbo engine (stock) $1500
2. transmission (stock GS-T FWD) $500
3. wiring harness for engine $300
4. 4G63 ECU (stock) $300
5. shift linkage $200
6. custom engine mounts $200
7. chassis cross member $100
8. complete exhaust $200
9. intercooler, turbo, related parts $500
10. boost gauge/fuel filter, etc $300
11. Installation $1500
This totals $5600, and doesn't include unforeseen obstacles in the installation. For about $2000, you should be able to get over 100 hp out of the stock 420A motor with porting, valvetrain and electronics modifications. As well, for the cost, it is cheaper to turbocharge for 420A motor with a bolt on kit.

Steve-o
Top secret.

Originally posted by FlyinEsi
I guess I'll just have to live with a 500+ hp AWD 4-banger.