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miamilakeseclipseJun-28-04 03:39 PM
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#76745, "Which Cams?"


          

I am trying to decide which crane cams to get, the following supporting mods will be posted below but i am trying to decide between Crane 0012 or 0016. I know 0012 is for nitrous but would a more agressive 0016 still be daily drivable & give me a more agressive grind.

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Cold Air Intake, 2.25” Header-Back Exhaust, 4-1 Header, AF/X Under-drive Pulley, 55mm TB, P&P Intake Manifold, AEM Cam Gears, Apex’I AFC-II, Zex Wet Kit w/Purge Valve & Bottle Warmer, Race Ported Head, Walbro Fuel Pump (190lph), Dyno Tuned of course lol....Currently no ecu is mad for my car =(, but i am looking into the t3 (does anyone know anything about it?)

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RE: Which Cams?, Uberingram, Jun-28-04 03:43 PM, #1
RE: Which Cams?, miamilakeseclipse, Jun-28-04 04:41 PM, #2
      RE: Which Cams?, 420AYE, Jun-28-04 07:16 PM, #3
           RE: Which Cams?, miamilakeseclipse, Jun-29-04 02:19 AM, #4
           RE: Which Cams?, TeamMichael_97RS, Jun-29-04 12:38 PM, #5
RE: Which Cams?, VendorAFX_Manufacturing, Jun-29-04 05:09 AM, #6
RE: Which Cams?, nightwolf2369, Jun-29-04 03:18 PM, #7
      RE: Which Cams?, ShadowRuleZ, Jun-29-04 03:43 PM, #8
      RE: Which Cams?, Justin99RS, Jun-29-04 04:00 PM, #9
           RE: Which Cams?, miamilakeseclipse, Jun-29-04 04:44 PM, #10
                RE: Which Cams?, 420AYE, Jun-30-04 06:52 AM, #11
                     RE: Which Cams?, miamilakeseclipse, Jun-30-04 08:45 AM, #12
      RE: Which Cams?, VendorAFX_Manufacturing, Jun-30-04 01:26 PM, #13

UberingramJun-28-04 03:43 PM
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#76746, "RE: Which Cams?"
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Have you read this thread yet?

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=32&topic_id=91&mesg_id=91&page=

It will more than likely answer all your questions.

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miamilakeseclipseJun-28-04 04:41 PM
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#76748, "RE: Which Cams?"
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Yea the other day i had some time & started reading it, then my girl came over & i read somemore lol j/k. But from what i know crane 0016 n nitrous would produce a well sized flame out hte back of my exhaust lol. I could not find anything about street drivability (will get new retainers & valve springs if ordering 16's).

What about hte t3? has anyone ever used it before?

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420AYEJun-28-04 07:16 PM
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#76756, "RE: Which Cams?"
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i think i heard the cranes' are just modified neon cams. and the crowers are modeled off of an original 420a cam i think. i'd get the crower 2's, there is a thread here with the sound of the exhaust. sweet imo.

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miamilakeseclipseJun-29-04 02:19 AM
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#76768, "RE: Which Cams?"
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yes but will crower 2's work well with nitrous?

Yea i heard that eclipse w/ the cams too, swweettt lol, wish he would have gotten a couple more rev clips in (they revved pretty fast didnt they!? lol)

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#76813, "RE: Which Cams?"
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Originally posted by 420AYE
i think i heard the cranes' are just modified neon cams. and the crowers are modeled off of an original 420a cam i think. i'd get the crower 2's, there is a thread here with the sound of the exhaust. sweet imo.


Yeah I sent a set in to Crower and they were the basis of the cams.

I love the Crower 2's, but with a crower 2 or crane 16 expect to have a lope at idle. You'll be good with nitrous on Crower 2's or 16s. Your best bet for a good idle on them is to use some type of map modifying device like the S-AFC or something more complex.



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VendorAFX_ManufacturingJun-29-04 05:09 AM
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#76779, "RE: Which Cams?"
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I run the 16's in several of our engines on the street and they work to good effect, but the idle is very rough

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#76819, "RE: Which Cams?"
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not to steel this thread or anything but, when you say rough at idle, what does that mean? shakes alot? shuts off alot? i want to get the 16s so i hope they aren't too bad.

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#76820, "RE: Which Cams?"
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The old school term is that the cam is "lumpy" and also has low vacuum. Not sure how important some of this stuff is in modern day cars.

  

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#76821, "RE: Which Cams?"
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yup..it matters on newer cars as well...i have the crane 12's...they do pretty well in terms of power...and have a good idle...but that can change depending on my cam gear settings...i can make them lope like a cammed up v8 hehe..makes hondas look at you like "WTF" emoji

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#76822, "RE: Which Cams?"
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Originally posted by Justin99RS
yup..it matters on newer cars as well...i have the crane 12's...they do pretty well in terms of power...and have a good idle...but that can change depending on my cam gear settings...i can make them lope like a cammed up v8 hehe..makes hondas look at you like "WTF" emoji


ROFL, Edit i can see their faces now lol....they might be dumb enough to ask..."Got a hemi????"

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#76849, "RE: Which Cams?"
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i think it sounds like ur safe either way. but beware for a little bit o' tuning.

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miamilakeseclipseJun-30-04 08:45 AM
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#76853, "RE: Which Cams?"
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hehe i'm not scared of tuning lol....but for real i was going to need to get the cam gears & afc dyno tuned anyways

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#76858, "RE: Which Cams?"
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Originally posted by nightwolf2369
not to steel this thread or anything but, when you say rough at idle, what does that mean? shakes alot? shuts off alot? i want to get the 16s so i hope they aren't too bad.


It will lope at idle. It will not stall, it will shake a little bit.

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