I heard that we can use a throttle body off of a dodge caravan. I just need to know the following questions:

-I heard we can use 3.3L or 3.8L, is this true?

-What year can we use?

-Are they all 60mm?

-How hard is it to modify it and make it work?

Larry

venomtalon@aol.com

Performance Mods: Custom CAI, Jeep 60mm TB, Ported Intake Manifold with Jeep TB match, 5 angle valve job, Head milled .020, Regrind Cams, PT Lifters and Rockers, AEM Cam Gears, OBX Wires, NGK Plugs, AFX UDP, OBX Header, OBX

My neighbor had an extra TB from an older 3.0 caravan. It'll mount up, but the TB from that engine is smaller. The ISC is the same though

JE Pistons .020 over
Eagle Rods
TotalSeal Gapless Rings
HRC Stage 2 Kit
Stage 4 Clutchmasters
Phantom grip LSD
TurboXS Hp boost controller
TurboXS Type H BOV
Greddy Turbo Timer
OBX 2.5" catback
2.5" Racecat
RRE Oil Catchcan w\o PCV
Top Fuel UDP
PT Cruiser Lifters and Rockers
Missing Link
MSD Coil pack
MSD 8.5mm wires
AFX Solid Front mount
Tokico Illuminas
Tokico Springs
Brembo Rotors
Ceramic pads
17" Black ADR Dv-8 Rims
Clear Corners
Aluminum Gauge bezel(15+HP!!!)
White Face Gauges

Soon to come..
Black projector headlights
Front 97 Eclipse conversion
All GO, A little SHOW.....The way it should be

Someone with an extra stock TB needs to go to a junkyard and find a bunch of caravans and jeeps and look at the TB's. See if the bolt holes match up, the TPS and IAC wiring will work and needs to be modded, and also see if the actual throttle linkage will all work. Then measure the inside to see for sure. My friend has an older caravan I think it's an 89. . .It has a TB on it that looks smaller than ours!



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Perf:
KYB AGX Struts
Neuspeed Sport Springs
5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L)
Sprint Front Camber Kit
$15 Rear Camber Kit
Corbin's A/F Gauge
MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have)
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Throttle Body
Nameless Cold Air Intake with a K&N Filter
Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler
Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
Hurricane_GS Short Shifter
Symborsky Shift Kit
Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular
225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
Alpine CD Head Unit
Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears
Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs
Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears
Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

Flame Red SRT-4 GT40,8.5:1 Built Shortblock, Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams, etc etc etc...

so where is the 60MM tb at???? Is there any web site's out there about caravans??

venomtalon@aol.com

Performance Mods: Custom CAI, Jeep 60mm TB, Ported Intake Manifold with Jeep TB match, 5 angle valve job, Head milled .020, Regrind Cams, PT Lifters and Rockers, AEM Cam Gears, OBX Wires, NGK Plugs, AFX UDP, OBX Header, OBX

Look at www.allpar.com it's about all mopars


Contemplating Turbo. . . . .

http://hometown.aol.com/ohshootuhh/

All Motor Beast in need of MAJOR TUNING

Perf:
KYB AGX Struts
Neuspeed Sport Springs
5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L)
Sprint Front Camber Kit
$15 Rear Camber Kit
Corbin's A/F Gauge
MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have)
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Throttle Body
Nameless Cold Air Intake with a K&N Filter
Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler
Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
Hurricane_GS Short Shifter
Symborsky Shift Kit
Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular
225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
Alpine CD Head Unit
Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears
Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs
Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears
Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

Flame Red SRT-4 GT40,8.5:1 Built Shortblock, Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams, etc etc etc...

With some custom work it can be done, but the other problem I see is that our stock manifold does not really flow enough for more than a 55mm TB, which matches with it nicely. If you want to go larger, you should look into porting your intake manifold as well to get more benefit. Also, for a mild setup I wonder how beneficial it would be to go larger than 55mm as well. You might give up some low end in the process. This is just thought. We would not know for sure until someone tried.

05 Mazda RX-8
06 Lotus Elise

Yeah you will have to port out the inlet on the manifold at a bare minimum, and that's if it will bolt up.

"The fastest draw is when the sword never leaves the scabbard,
The strongest way to block, is never to provoke a blow,
And the cleanest cut is the one withheld."

Michael J. Kulaga
e-mail: Michael_97RS@2gntDSM.zzn.com aol IM: MJKulga
http://highlander.dsmpower.com/

All Motor Beast in the Making

Injen CAI, 55mm TB, Hooker 4-1 Stepped Header, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, S-AFC, 8.5mm Magnecor Wires, SS Clutch Line, NRG Susp. Motor Mount Ins., FU/RU/RL STBs, TSW Blade 17x7.5, Bridgestone Potenza RE730 215/45ZR-17. Front KVR Cross-Drilled Rotors and Carbon Fiber Pads

To Be Installed: Ported/Polished Intake Manifold, Rear disc brake conversion kit, SS Brake Lines, Rear KVR Cross Drilled Rotors and KVR Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads

Firefly:
Mal: You don't know me, son, so let me put this to you plainly: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake. You'll be facing me. And you'll be armed.

I'm trying to call some junk yards, but I need some Year, Make and Model!! I looked on the net and found that older caravan TB's are only 52mm! but the Jeep is 60mm, but I cant put a year or model on it!! I say a pic of a 4.0L Jeep and the one I say looks like it wont fit! It had 4 bolts to mount and the throttle cable looks like it won't mount either! Can anyone find out and Car that would be close!

Larry

venomtalon@aol.com

Performance Mods: Custom CAI, Jeep 60mm TB, Ported Intake Manifold with Jeep TB match, 5 angle valve job, Head milled .020, Regrind Cams, PT Lifters and Rockers, AEM Cam Gears, OBX Wires, NGK Plugs, AFX UDP, OBX Header, OBX

I know for sure that the throttle linkage is slightly different. The caravans have a two cable setup instead of one like us. The ISC is the same, I swapped it into my car. The TPS is connector is different. This is all info off of a 3.0 liter V6. MY neighbor had a Chiltons or Haynes that showed pics of the newer TB and they are similar.

JE Pistons .020 over
Eagle Rods
TotalSeal Gapless Rings
HRC Stage 2 Kit
Stage 4 Clutchmasters
Phantom grip LSD
TurboXS Hp boost controller
TurboXS Type H BOV
Greddy Turbo Timer
OBX 2.5" catback
2.5" Racecat
RRE Oil Catchcan w\o PCV
Top Fuel UDP
PT Cruiser Lifters and Rockers
Missing Link
MSD Coil pack
MSD 8.5mm wires
AFX Solid Front mount
Tokico Illuminas
Tokico Springs
Brembo Rotors
Ceramic pads
17" Black ADR Dv-8 Rims
Clear Corners
Aluminum Gauge bezel(15+HP!!!)
White Face Gauges

Soon to come..
Black projector headlights
Front 97 Eclipse conversion
All GO, A little SHOW.....The way it should be

I think it was 93-96 3.3 or 3.8 L that was the closest fit. At least thats what I read on WWW.ASOG.NET



Contemplating Turbo. . . . .

http://hometown.aol.com/ohshootuhh/

All Motor Beast in need of MAJOR TUNING

Perf:
KYB AGX Struts
Neuspeed Sport Springs
5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L)
Sprint Front Camber Kit
$15 Rear Camber Kit
Corbin's A/F Gauge
MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have)
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Throttle Body
Nameless Cold Air Intake with a K&N Filter
Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler
Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
Hurricane_GS Short Shifter
Symborsky Shift Kit
Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular
225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
Alpine CD Head Unit
Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears
Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs
Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears
Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

Flame Red SRT-4 GT40,8.5:1 Built Shortblock, Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams, etc etc etc...

I think the engines were 3.3L and 3.6L our caravan has a 3.3L, next time I do something to it, I'll take a look and see what I can see on it.

"The fastest draw is when the sword never leaves the scabbard,
The strongest way to block, is never to provoke a blow,
And the cleanest cut is the one withheld."

Michael J. Kulaga
e-mail: Michael_97RS@2gntDSM.zzn.com aol IM: MJKulga
http://highlander.dsmpower.com/

All Motor Beast in the Making

Injen CAI, 55mm TB, Hooker 4-1 Stepped Header, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, S-AFC, 8.5mm Magnecor Wires, SS Clutch Line, NRG Susp. Motor Mount Ins., FU/RU/RL STBs, TSW Blade 17x7.5, Bridgestone Potenza RE730 215/45ZR-17. Front KVR Cross-Drilled Rotors and Carbon Fiber Pads

To Be Installed: Ported/Polished Intake Manifold, Rear disc brake conversion kit, SS Brake Lines, Rear KVR Cross Drilled Rotors and KVR Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads

Firefly:
Mal: You don't know me, son, so let me put this to you plainly: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake. You'll be facing me. And you'll be armed.

I looked at some jeep TB's and they look good!!I think i'm going to try to get one and modify it to work. I'll let everyone know how it goes!

venomtalon@aol.com

Performance Mods: Custom CAI, Jeep 60mm TB, Ported Intake Manifold with Jeep TB match, 5 angle valve job, Head milled .020, Regrind Cams, PT Lifters and Rockers, AEM Cam Gears, OBX Wires, NGK Plugs, AFX UDP, OBX Header, OBX

ok the TB i'm getting does have a place for the vacume hose. Can I just cap off the vacume line that goes to the TB?

venomtalon@aol.com

Performance Mods: Custom CAI, Jeep 60mm TB, Ported Intake Manifold with Jeep TB match, 5 angle valve job, Head milled .020, Regrind Cams, PT Lifters and Rockers, AEM Cam Gears, OBX Wires, NGK Plugs, AFX UDP, OBX Header, OBX

Well murix, isn't Bill's car running a 70mm tb? With a stock manifold? That's what Ray was telling me last time I talked to him. Dunno if this is accurate though.

Last I remember he was running the 55mm AFX.

"The fastest draw is when the sword never leaves the scabbard,
The strongest way to block, is never to provoke a blow,
And the cleanest cut is the one withheld."

Michael J. Kulaga
e-mail: Michael_97RS@2gntDSM.zzn.com aol IM: MJKulga
http://highlander.dsmpower.com/

All Motor Beast in the Making

Injen CAI, 55mm TB, Hooker 4-1 Stepped Header, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, S-AFC, 8.5mm Magnecor Wires, SS Clutch Line, NRG Susp. Motor Mount Ins., FU/RU/RL STBs, TSW Blade 17x7.5, Bridgestone Potenza RE730 215/45ZR-17. Front KVR Cross-Drilled Rotors and Carbon Fiber Pads

To Be Installed: Ported/Polished Intake Manifold, Rear disc brake conversion kit, SS Brake Lines, Rear KVR Cross Drilled Rotors and KVR Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads

Firefly:
Mal: You don't know me, son, so let me put this to you plainly: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake. You'll be facing me. And you'll be armed.

Whats the extreme 420 manifold size? Is the one he sells on the page just the factory one but ported or is it a completely different one?

14.2@98.5
4g63
FP Big28
Hallman MBC
1g Bov
HKS Hiper Catback
OBX highflow cat
DSMlink

Diff.

Stage-1

Custom Aluminum "RaGe" intake
$499.00
(this will bolt on top of you stock lower Plenum and allow you to
retain factory Style Throttle body. ie Factory /Bored one

Stage-2

Same as Stage-1 But will come with a AFX Bored throttle body
$625.00

Stage "RaGe"

This is a full intake system ported and polished, and will come
with a Billet 75 mm throttle body. ( No modifications needed to mount but
will require rewire of TPS)
$899.00 (Recommended for "Thee Extreme")

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98 ESi
95 GS

I saw that on the page. Any idea what is bored to? Thanks!

14.2@98.5
4g63
FP Big28
Hallman MBC
1g Bov
HKS Hiper Catback
OBX highflow cat
DSMlink