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esseclipseMar-19-04 05:36 PM
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#71047, "Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"




          

I installed my Built engine, Quaife LSD, and Clutchmaster stage IV....it started right up sounded good everything looked good untill we saw some oil leaking right by the crank position sensor....so we hoped that is what it was but it looks like the block is leaking right where the two halfs of the block meet. Anyone ever split the block with it still on the car?....

  

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RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, eclipsekaiser, Mar-19-04 06:59 PM, #1
RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, run4cvr, Mar-19-04 07:48 PM, #2
      RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, esseclipse, Mar-20-04 02:06 AM, #3
           RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, tim97rs, Mar-20-04 02:13 AM, #4
                RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, lickscissors, Mar-20-04 03:23 AM, #5
                     RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, esseclipse, Mar-20-04 06:23 AM, #6
RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, turbo8u, Mar-20-04 06:49 AM, #7
RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, TeamDR1665, Mar-20-04 09:50 AM, #8
      RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, esseclipse, Mar-20-04 10:31 AM, #9
           RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, TeamDR1665, Mar-20-04 10:38 AM, #10
                RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, esseclipse, Mar-20-04 11:08 AM, #11
                     RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, eclipseman1999, Mar-20-04 12:24 PM, #12
                          RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, TeamDR1665, Mar-20-04 12:49 PM, #13
                               RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, esseclipse, Mar-20-04 02:35 PM, #14
                                    RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, TeamXtremeRS, Mar-20-04 03:04 PM, #15
                                         RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, esseclipse, Mar-20-04 03:15 PM, #16
                                              RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, TeamDR1665, Mar-20-04 03:46 PM, #17
                                                   RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, esseclipse, Mar-21-04 02:50 AM, #18
                                                        RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, run4cvr, Mar-21-04 04:13 AM, #19
                                                             RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, grain, Mar-21-04 04:51 AM, #20
                                                                  RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, esseclipse, Mar-21-04 02:56 PM, #21
                                                                       RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, TeamDR1665, Mar-22-04 03:03 AM, #22
                                                                            RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak, esseclipse, Mar-22-04 07:26 AM, #23

eclipsekaiserMar-19-04 06:59 PM
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#71050, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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hehehee O-ring for bedplate or gasket for the Oil filter block.

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#71061, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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Originally posted by eclipsekaiser
hehehee O-ring for bedplate or gasket for the Oil filter block.


Sorry to say this... But Kaiser is right.

John 96 GS

  

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esseclipseMar-20-04 02:06 AM
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#71068, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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Can I replace either of those while on the car?

  

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#71069, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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not a snowballs chance in hell! sorry dude... you gota drop the bed plate!

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#71074, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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holy shit does that suck and god do i hope i dont forget either of those.... i get pissed when i forget to attach a coolant line or something....sorry to hear that man
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esseclipseMar-20-04 06:23 AM
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#71096, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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My question is Can I drop the bedplate while the engine is still in the car or do I have to pull the engine again.

  

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turbo8uMar-20-04 06:49 AM
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#71100, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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Mar-20-04 06:50 AM by turbo8u



          

no dude you cant get the bedplate off with the engine still in the car....

ownage phase 1, begin

  

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#71109, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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I've been waiting over 10,000 miles to post this pic...


Take it from someone who's been there and felt your pain man. You have to pull it out and take it off. emoji



They told me I had to pull it out and call a do-over too. At least you have practice at it now though, right? emoji

  

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esseclipseMar-20-04 10:31 AM
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#71110, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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So most likely it is that red o ring?

  

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#71111, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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Mar-20-04 10:40 AM by DR1665

          

Originally posted by esseclipse
So most likely it is that red o ring?


If that o-ring is not in between the block and the bedplate, you have to pull the engine back out. Sux0rs, I know, but required.

Pull the engine, flip it upside-down, pull the bed plate, clean the mating surfaces as best you can (as in spotless), reapply fresh anaerobic sealant *(double check the overhaul manual for where it goes and how much so you don't have to do this again), reassemble, reinstall. I think you also need to wait a little while before starting the car for the stuff to cure too, but I'm not sure. emoji You can use a razor blade, if necessary, to remove the old sealant, but make sure you keep the blade upright and do not make any gouges, scrapes, or scores in the mating surfaces!

Good luck and keep your chin up man. I know this really sucks right now. Trust me I do...


  

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esseclipseMar-20-04 11:08 AM
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#71112, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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Is anaerobic sealant the best thing to use I believe that is what I used the first time (I built the motor over 6 months ago.) I asked a Chyrsler Tech today and he told me to use Torque Cure Gasket Eliminator (Mopar Part Number 4773257) It is green.

  

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#71115, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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There is this thick red colored sealant that nissan uses on everything from block,heads,oil pumps ect.. And I have heard it works better than the green anaerobic sealant.The nissan stuff is as thick as toothpasted would be.You might want to try that also.


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#71117, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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Originally posted by eclipseman1999
There is this thick red colored sealant that nissan uses on everything from block,heads,oil pumps ect.. And I have heard it works better than the green anaerobic sealant.The nissan stuff is as thick as toothpasted would be.You might want to try that also.


The torque cure stuff the mopar tech recommended is more than likley the mopar equivalent to anaerobic. You can buy that stuff for about $50 from Satan or you can go to napa and get the loctite stuff. It will say on the tube that it is an anaerobic sealant good for sealing gaps up to like .010" or something to that effect. Sorry but I'm not sure what this toothpaste stuff is. Granted, the stuff I used on mine was raspberry colored (as you an see in the own3d pic above) and is the correct stuff. DO NOT TRY USING RTV OR YOUR BEARINGS MIGHT FAIL OR SOME OTHER HORRIBLE SIDE EFFECT. Make sure you get either the stuff from Mopar or the specific anaerobic sealant from napa. It's with the rest of the loctite stuff, you just have to read teh backs of the packages very closely imo.

  

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esseclipseMar-20-04 02:35 PM
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#71120, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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I got the Mopar stuff for free I work at a Chrysler Dealer. Also not to be repetitive but why can't you reseal this without removing the engine....it looks like it would be possible.

  

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#71121, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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Before you go pulling the motor out again, just double check to see EXACTLY where the oil is leaking from. Oil can migrate all over the block, and just because you see oil in a spot, doesnt mean its leaking right there. Just check it thuroghly..unless you can actually see oil coming out of there right infront of your eyes..


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#71122, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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I am 99% sure where the leak is coming from. I just want to try to reseal the bedplate while it is on the car and it looks like you can do it....just wondering if it is possible.

  

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#71123, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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It is not. I can't remember why, but I'm 99% sure that you have to pull it to take the bedplate off. Just be sure, like xtreme said, that this is defeinitely where teh leak is before you yank it again. emoji

  

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#71133, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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Anyone else know for sure if you can or can't drop the bedplate while the engine is in the car.....It looks like I can do it.

  

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#71138, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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Originally posted by esseclipse
Anyone else know for sure if you can or can't drop the bedplate while the engine is in the car.....It looks like I can do it.


There are two transmission bolts that go through the bedplate to the block. Also i beleive that the oil pump needs to come off to seperate the bedplate from the block.

John 96 GS

  

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#71139, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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time to pull

  

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#71178, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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Well fella's just so you know you can take off the bedplate with the engine in the car....I did it today. The leak was from me forgeting to install the rubber o ring gasket. But I got the car all back together and it feels great....If someone email's me with instructions on how to post pics on here I have lots of them I just don't know how to post them.

  

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#71197, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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Originally posted by esseclipse
Well fella's just so you know you can take off the bedplate with the engine in the car....I did it today.

Well pulling the engine builds more character. I have more character sir. emoji

Originally posted by esseclipse
The leak was from me forgeting to install the rubber o ring gasket.

This means my own3d pic above was justified. emoji

Originally posted by esseclipse
If someone email's me with instructions on how to post pics on here I have lots of them I just don't know how to post them.

Start a thread over at KaptainMykes in the OffTopic>CarGallery forum and simply click the add file button. Find the pic you want and make the post. Then right click>properties on the image and paste the URL where you want the picture posted elsewhere. Be sure to post in the right forum over there and to give Myke credit for the hosting. emoji




  

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esseclipseMar-22-04 07:26 AM
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#71217, "RE: Installed My Built Engine.....Got a Leak"
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I hardly think doing more work than you have to builds character. I just think it should be known for future reference that you can drop the bedplate if need be while the engine is still in the vehicle. Besides I couldn't wait to drive my car and saved myself lots of time and energy....I built enough character puting the engine in the first time.

  

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