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tim97rsJan-17-04 06:12 AM
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#66789, "Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"


          

a metal or aluminum pipe (with appropriate bends) instead of a rubber radiator hose as long as it was connected with couplers?
Im mean realisticly speaking, is there and any reason this shouldn't be done?

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RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), djtrickee, Jan-17-04 06:14 AM, #1
RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), tim97rs, Jan-17-04 06:39 AM, #2
      RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), Chamuko, Jan-17-04 08:12 AM, #3
           RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), MotoFool, Jan-17-04 10:28 AM, #4
                RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), Breezio, Jan-17-04 12:38 PM, #5
                     RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), fly1, Jan-17-04 03:28 PM, #6
                          RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), HiOnPSI, Jan-17-04 05:36 PM, #7
                          RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), Breezio, Jan-18-04 05:00 AM, #8
                               RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), MotoFool, Jan-18-04 10:26 PM, #9
                                    RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), tim97rs, Jan-19-04 05:18 AM, #10
                                         RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), jamesman, Jan-19-04 07:53 AM, #11
                                         RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), Breezio, Jan-19-04 01:56 PM, #12
                                              RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), jamesman, Mar-25-04 08:26 AM, #13
                                                   RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), SILVERNT, Mar-25-04 09:04 AM, #14
                                                   RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), Blizare, Mar-25-04 09:18 AM, #15
                                                        RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), Uberingram, Mar-25-04 09:24 AM, #16
                                                   RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), gilee_8, Mar-25-04 09:33 AM, #17
                                                        RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), MR BLUNT 2gnt, Mar-25-04 11:37 AM, #18
                                         RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), GhEttOrAiD, Mar-25-04 01:00 PM, #19
                                              RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER), esseclipse, Mar-26-04 11:50 AM, #20

djtrickeeJan-17-04 06:14 AM
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#66790, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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Well the engine shakes and moves pretty considerably and so does the radiator. Thats why it is mounted using those rubber grommets. An aluminum pipe wouldnt allow them to move freely from each other. Thats the main reason.

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tim97rsJan-17-04 06:39 AM
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#66791, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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True but with the couplers, how would it be any different than intercooler piping? a FMIC is hard mounted without rubber bushings and the piping is essentialy free-floating, connected only by couplers to one another.

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#66797, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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maybe given the proper support, such as polyurethane mounts or even solid ones. Also maybe leave a bit more then average room for the coupling. Ive pondered this myself. There are silicone reinforced hoses available for us.

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#66801, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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many cars have aluminum radiator hoses avalable from companys for upgrade

just grab some 3 ply silicone high temp couplers from the industrial fittings store and you'll be good to go.

You can have it cheap, fast or good. Pick any two.

If you want it cheap and fast, it's not going to be good.
If you want it cheap and good, it's not going to be fast.
If you want it good and fast, it's not going to be cheap.

  

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BreezioJan-17-04 12:38 PM
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#66805, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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i'd rather use flexible stainless braided pipe (although expensive) and besides.. the radiator system is much more important (and runs at a higher preasure!!) then the turbo piping.. I definatly wouldn't put solid tubing for the radiator.. not unless the motor was held down tight with solid motor mounts.. that's probably the only way the racers can use those metal pipes.. cause their motors don't move.. not rubber mounted.

  

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#66815, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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You should be able to use a metal pipe, as long as you allow 1-2" of coupling at each end-->allows some flexibility when engine torques. Like the others have mentioned, motor mount inserts will also help with that.

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#66824, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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I like the flexible braided, as well.

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BreezioJan-18-04 05:00 AM
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#66831, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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Originally posted by fly1
You should be able to use a metal pipe, as long as you allow 1-2" of coupling at each end-->allows some flexibility when engine torques. Like the others have mentioned, motor mount inserts will also help with that.


the motor moves back and forth more then 2"s.. so you need alot more then 2" of silicone coupling at eather end because a 2" section isn't gonna give you 2" of movement. for how short the hose is..it'd have to be almost all soft tubing.. kinda defeating the purpose.

  

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#66890, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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okay them if silicone couplers are not enough then how do you connect intercooler piping the motor still moves?

what about a cold air intake?

You can have it cheap, fast or good. Pick any two.

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If you want it cheap and good, it's not going to be fast.
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tim97rsJan-19-04 05:18 AM
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#66903, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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i should mention that i will have the prothane full motor mount inserts and not stock or NRG!!

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#66919, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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yes you can do it,
I have, I used 2 45 degree couplers and a titanium tube 4 hose clamps. no problems yet with it.

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#66947, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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i can understand it working fine with the above said setup.. being that the main flex points are silicone..

about intercooler piping.. beats me. i could be way off base.. perhaps they use enough couplers and are pretty long to absorbed the movement...

since i'm not going off actually experience you can always ignore me emoji

  

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jamesmanMar-25-04 08:26 AM
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#71441, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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here is a picture of my engine bay with the said mod done on it. the tube is titanium, the couplers are samco 45 degree silicone couplers.


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#71442, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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thats badass man

  

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#71444, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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Originally posted by SILVERNT
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#71447, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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Clean setup. emoji

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#71448, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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your engine bay is CLEAN and sweet.

Sorry if I am going off topic but do you have any pictures on the water cooler hose? that goes into your turbo?

I wanna know how you set it up and from where turbo from where back to the themostat.

A picture will be great!
You can email it to me at: gilee_8@yahoo.com
Thanks bro

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#71451, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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james has some money tied up in an fittings and steel braided line. one from the mani to the bov, nice touch. the other day i saw a pic of a twin turbo'd c5 and he had lines similar to steel braided brake lines(on our car at least) running for all vacuum. those earls fittings almost bankrupted me for the 8 inj setup, i spent a good 250 bucks between all the fittings and my aeromotive. that enginebay is clean buddy, kudo's on not half assing it.


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#71456, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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Originally posted by tim97rs
i should mention that i will have the prothane full motor mount inserts and not stock or NRG!!


I have the energy suspension inserts... Watched my motor while i was smogging (on a dyno)

It still moves a considerable amount!

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#71535, "RE: Is there any particualr reason we cant use... GET IN HERE AND ANSWER)"
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Jamesman....where did you get the titanium and the samco couplers?

  

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