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GriffinSep-13-03 12:14 PM
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#59154, "Controling larger injectors?"


          

hey guys.
I was wondering if anyone out there could shed some light on controling bigger injectors. specificaly 500cc i have a apex SAFC but I dont know that that is enough. anyone else have any ideas on a setup that would work?
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Griffin

  

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RE: Controling larger injectors?, Amish_Eclipse, Sep-13-03 05:12 PM, #1
RE: Controling larger injectors?, woo2gnt97, Sep-13-03 05:46 PM, #2
      RE: Controling larger injectors?, babybeclipse, Sep-14-03 10:02 AM, #3
           RE: Controling larger injectors?, SILVERNT, Sep-14-03 04:25 PM, #4
RE: Controling larger injectors?, Teamdougie2, Sep-14-03 05:27 PM, #5
RE: Controling larger injectors?, Griffin, Sep-15-03 06:41 AM, #6
      RE: Controling larger injectors?, Kirby, Sep-15-03 08:14 AM, #7
      RE: Controling larger injectors?, thedawg, Sep-15-03 12:31 PM, #8
           RE: Controling larger injectors?, Teamdougie2, Sep-15-03 02:19 PM, #9
                RE: Controling larger injectors?, pn0ymahal, Sep-15-03 05:59 PM, #10
                RE: Controling larger injectors?, JUNJUN712, Sep-15-03 07:09 PM, #11
                     RE: Controling larger injectors?, pn0ymahal, Sep-15-03 08:27 PM, #12
                RE: Controling larger injectors?, Griffin, Sep-16-03 03:30 AM, #13
                     RE: Controling larger injectors?, Teamdougie2, Sep-16-03 05:33 AM, #14

Amish_EclipseSep-13-03 05:12 PM
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#59167, "RE: Controling larger injectors?"
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i was told that if you use an SAFC you don't need bigger injectors because the AFC makes the injectors you have work harder.

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woo2gnt97Sep-13-03 05:46 PM
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#59175, "RE: Controling larger injectors?"
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I am not positive on this but I know for my VR4, the largest injector an SAFC can control is 720cc I think. It can control 600-700cc's w/o too much problem. 500cc is not a problem at all usually w/ an SAFC. Its all about correction %.

However, this is info for a different car. I am not sure if it can be applied to a 2gnt as easily. Hopefully, someone can back me up emoji

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babybeclipseSep-14-03 10:02 AM
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#59202, "RE: Controling larger injectors?"
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I could have sworn we have people on the board with 440's with no S-AFC.

  

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SILVERNTSep-14-03 04:25 PM
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#59223, "RE: Controling larger injectors?"
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550 has been done, with a crappy idle of course

  

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Teamdougie2Sep-14-03 05:27 PM
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#59231, "RE: Controling larger injectors?"
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Is this for a turbo setup? If so, you can use a Vortech S-FMU for up to 450cc injectors... add an APEXi S-AFC for anything larger. If you want 600cc and larger injectors, use an Accel DFI.

If you are not boost or nitrous feeding your engine then just forget about it... you're running rich as it is.

What's your setup?



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GriffinSep-15-03 06:41 AM
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#59257, "RE: Controling larger injectors?"
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These or 550CC are going in a 97 420 using a T4 turbo running 22 pounds on 100 oct. gas with a 75 shot of nitrous. I am not sure if I want to stay with the AFC or not..
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#59266, "RE: Controling larger injectors?"
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You will need to really be on top of the timing. That's the only real drawback to playing with the map sensor, if you lean too much with the safc then the timing advances and BOOM.



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#59282, "RE: Controling larger injectors?"
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>These or 550CC are going in a 97 420 using a T4 turbo running
>22 pounds on 100 oct. gas with a 75 shot of nitrous.

Um, you *might* be able to get away with just an SAFC, but damn man you're definitely looking at a standalone of some kind to run all that safely.

Search the Turbo/Nitrous section.

  

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Teamdougie2Sep-15-03 02:19 PM
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#59295, "RE: Controling larger injectors?"
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You'll need more than 550cc injectors for that setup. 720cc injectors and an Accel DFI will work for you though. Timing may not even be an issue if you're tuned well enough.



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#59308, "RE: Controling larger injectors?"
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the 8 injector setup works great. now that i know how to work it its the best. i love it. cant wait to crank up the power/boost... hehe
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#59310, "RE: Controling larger injectors?"
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What injector do you use in your 8 injector setup? Just wondering cuz' I just bought an 034 eic.

  

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#59325, "RE: Controling larger injectors?"
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235cc primary
420cc 2nd rail
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GriffinSep-16-03 03:30 AM
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#59338, "RE: Controling larger injectors?"
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dougie2, I like the car. very nice. I was thinking 550CC might be ont he small side but 720cc sounds huge. maybe 625cc? the HRC stage five kit runs 25 pounds of boost on 625cc. And how is the accel DFI for tuning? I have never had experience with one before. but I am kinda leaning in the dirrection of stand alone.
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Teamdougie2Sep-16-03 05:33 AM
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#59345, "RE: Controling larger injectors?"
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Sep-16-03 05:33 AM by dougie2



          

625cc injectors may work... start with the boost and see how much fuel overhead you have for nitrous. The DFI is a huge pain to tune... you need time, knowledge, and patience. The 8-injector setup is also nice I guess.



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