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davo345Jul-21-03 09:29 AM
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#55667, "what is missing link?"


          

just was wondering what missing link is because everyone is telling everyone to get missing link

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RE: what is missing link?, Diceman19, Jul-21-03 09:45 AM, #1
RE: what is missing link?, dfresh, Jul-21-03 11:18 PM, #2
      RE: what is missing link?, Teametx, Jul-22-03 04:05 AM, #3
           RE: what is missing link?, slodsm, Jul-22-03 06:15 AM, #4
                RE: what is missing link?, TeamJasonESi_T, Jul-22-03 06:49 AM, #5
                     RE: what is missing link?, slodsm, Jul-22-03 10:14 AM, #6
                          RE: what is missing link?, slodsm, Jul-22-03 10:16 AM, #7
                               RE: what is missing link?, Justin99RS, Jul-22-03 12:56 PM, #8
                               RE: what is missing link?, Diceman19, Jul-22-03 03:09 PM, #9
                               RE: what is missing link?, TeamJasonESi_T, Jul-22-03 03:49 PM, #10

Diceman19Jul-21-03 09:45 AM
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#55669, "RE: what is missing link?"
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Jul-21-03 09:46 AM by Diceman19

          

it is like the fuel cut defender. it makes the voltage to the map sensor the correct voltage so the ecu wont see backpressure from the turbo. it is a good thing. waaaaayyy better than the hahn FCD also known as the hahn black box.

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dfreshJul-21-03 11:18 PM
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#55719, "RE: what is missing link?"
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back pressure????????i thought it was positive manifold presure.....j/p

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TeametxJul-22-03 04:05 AM
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#55728, "RE: what is missing link?"
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yeah its not back pressure, its the from the turbo pressurizing the intake air, thats its jobby job. If the MAP (mainfold absolute pressure) sensor sees the pressure in the intake it will stop giving the motor fuel. If you go turbo you need the missing link, don't fuck with the hahn fcd it sucks balls.

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slodsmJul-22-03 06:15 AM
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#55733, "RE: what is missing link?"
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I have one as well and am not a fan of it at all. It is really a very cheesy setup for 60 bucks. The Hahn peice actually affects voltage and allowed for a smoother transition to boost on my car. The missing link is nothing more than a chunk of metal that has a ball inside and pushes up to stock boost pressure from reaching the map sensor when it gets pressure. Thats why hovering aroungd 1 inch vacuum and 1 lb of boost the cars do not act right. I personaly think it is a lot of hype and the FCD is better. I will probably change it back when I get some free time when I am not fixing every one elses cars.

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1999 Civic SI, Boosted and built, 12.67@112.

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1992 Eagle Talon TSI AWD12.91@104
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TeamJasonESi_TJul-22-03 06:49 AM
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#55734, "RE: what is missing link?"
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If you've ever experienced detonation and misfires as a result of the HRC black box, you might change your opinion.

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slodsmJul-22-03 10:14 AM
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#55752, "RE: what is missing link?"
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all I ever experianced with the black box was a slight momentary hiccup when eased into boost, much less pronounced than this thing. Oh well, cam gears go on shortly and I will try a dyno tune and see what that will help.

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1999 Civic SI, Boosted and built, 12.67@112.

Gone but not forgotten.....
1998 Eagle Talon ESI, built and boosted 14.2@98
1992 Eagle Talon TSI AWD12.91@104
1992 Honda Hatch swapped and sprayed14.0@108

  

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slodsmJul-22-03 10:16 AM
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#55753, "RE: what is missing link?"
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Oh and Jason, you still have one of my favorite cars on here, I love the clean look with no crazy body mods, 97 and 98 Talons are my favorite cars out there.

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1999 Civic SI, Boosted and built, 12.67@112.

Gone but not forgotten.....
1998 Eagle Talon ESI, built and boosted 14.2@98
1992 Eagle Talon TSI AWD12.91@104
1992 Honda Hatch swapped and sprayed14.0@108

  

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Justin99RSJul-22-03 12:56 PM
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#55760, "RE: what is missing link?"
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i have ONLY the missing link, no black box or anything...and never have any problems entering boost....either at 1" of vac or very low boost...i can do smooth transitions or WOT boosts and never get a touch of fuel cut...

'99 RS
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Diceman19Jul-22-03 03:09 PM
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#55764, "RE: what is missing link?"
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that was my bad. i meant positive manifold pressure. oops. typed it wrong. oh well.

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#55765, "RE: what is missing link?"
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Thanks man. I love em too! I just discussed the other day how great it was the first time I saw her.

I just always try to pass along the very experience I had with a black box and it was none too great. I had bouts of sever detonation and leanness and I would never want that to happen to anyone else. It's my opinion that although those black boxes are decent fixes for the hickups, they can unexpectedly and without warning, fail on someone.

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04' BMW 325Ci
91' Nissan 240SX
98' Eagle Talon ESi (sold)

  

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