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MmmDeionFeb-24-03 07:02 PM
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#45262, "Who wants to argue??"


          

Its finally commin around towards spring time, meanin that Ill be buildin the 420a up for when the season starts... Ive made myself a list of all the parts that Ill be gettin that will help me down the road when i get the money to order a stage 1...

- Jeep TB with Ported Intake Manifold
- AFX 30% Underdrive H
- Howell Automotive Bottom End Kit
Clevite 77 Rod Bearing
Clevite 77 Main Bearing
Total Seal Piston Rings
Mopar Oil Pan
Gasket Set
Melling Oil Pump
Eagle Forged Rods
JE Pistons (8.6:1)
- Grounding system
- Fidanza Engineering Cam Gears

I just put this thing together like 10 minutes ago, and I want you guys to argue with me all the way... What am i missing (because i can think of things im missin that i just havent listed) and whats there that is not necessary... Have fun with add, just keep in mind that im workin with about $2500 or so...


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RE: Who wants to argue??, juggalo, Feb-24-03 07:26 PM, #1
RE: Who wants to argue??, MotoFool, Feb-24-03 09:06 PM, #2
      RE: Who wants to argue??, TeamMichael_97RS, Feb-25-03 04:28 AM, #3
           RE: Who wants to argue??, KLIPZED, Feb-25-03 04:50 AM, #4
                RE: Who wants to argue??, Logic3, Feb-25-03 09:31 AM, #5
                     RE: Who wants to argue??, 95_ESi_Person, Feb-26-03 08:31 AM, #6
                          RE: Who wants to argue??, juggalo, Feb-26-03 10:08 AM, #7
                               RE: Who wants to argue??, DSMRoadster, Feb-26-03 01:08 PM, #8

juggaloFeb-24-03 07:26 PM
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#45265, "RE: Who wants to argue??"
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maybe some of the other guys can back me up on this, you should use the Total Seal Piston Rings. i can't remember the exact reason but im sure somebody else will.

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MotoFoolFeb-24-03 09:06 PM
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#45266, "RE: Who wants to argue??"
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i dont like the way total seal rings seat and over half the time they let oil by and smoke they are crap..

ill use JE rings on JE pistons and Weisco rings on Weisco pistons

maybe subsitute in Hastings rings but not total seal stuff..

ive got a kit with all that stuff on it hit the web page...

You can have it cheap, fast or good. Pick any two.

If you want it cheap and fast, it's not going to be good.
If you want it cheap and good, it's not going to be fast.
If you want it good and fast, it's not going to be cheap.

  

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TeamMichael_97RSFeb-25-03 04:28 AM
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#45272, "RE: Who wants to argue??"
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Total seal rings have to be installe dproperly, there are a few was to do it depending on how you set up the the car, so you have to install right or you have oil problems, I would say go with Hatsings, JE, Wisco, like said.

I'll of course say higher compression pistons, but the lower is easier to boost on.

I only think the grounding system is worth it you have problems with yrou current one and you aren't getting good grounds througout the car.

If you can afford it, get some cams as well.



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KLIPZEDFeb-25-03 04:50 AM
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#45273, "RE: Who wants to argue??"
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might want to consider headers and a cat back to get air flowin out...

->you all say the total seal rings are bad? the engines on RPMxtreme(plannin on buying in near future) use those...should i ask to substitute others or just keep an eye on those?TIA

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#45295, "RE: Who wants to argue??"
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Feb-25-03 09:31 AM by Logic3

          

>Ive made myself a list of all the parts that Ill be gettin that will help me down the road when i get the money to order a stage 1...

Header is not needed

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#45369, "RE: Who wants to argue??"
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oil, gas, and the need for speed

little off topic, but how easy/hard is it to put the rings on pistons? if you order new pistons are the rings already on them? I remember from one of my classes in high school my teacher saying the rings are really easy to snap. just wondering because i might be needing to do some of that in the future and i'd rather not pay a shop.

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juggaloFeb-26-03 10:08 AM
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#45380, "RE: Who wants to argue??"
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http://www.ecanfix.com/users/manualcd/gift/dsm/2gnt_420a_overhaul.pdf
look on page 47

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#45404, "RE: Who wants to argue??"
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I did the install myself and the rings are a snap to put on. They will come with directions. I love the total seal rings. If installed correctly you will get very little to no blow by at all. I've had the rebuilt engine for about 8 months now and had no blow by at all. Oil level has stayed near constant from oil change to oil change. But they are awesome. I just have a dump tube from the crank case breather and it's still clean.

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