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DSMeclipseGSJun-28-02 04:33 PM
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#26246, "Drive gears (acceleration mod)"


          

Hey guys. This looks like it would help us since we lose some low end with intake/exhaust. Has anyone done this yet?


http://www.geocities.com/rbsounddesigns//finaldrivemod.html

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HRC 16g turbo kit, Spearco custom FMIC, Custom IC piping, VT rebuilt engine: Custom 8.8:1 compression CP pistons, Eagle connecting rods, Melling oil pump, Clevite bearings, 370cc injectors, Vortech S-FMU, Apexi N-1 catback exhaust, AFX UDP, Autometer boost gauge, fuel pressure gauge, EGT gauge, Corbin's digital A/F gauge, Tokico Blue shocks, Tein springs (1.5" drop), 18" Konig Verdicts rims, VIS stock-style Carbon fiber hood

  

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RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), ModeratorCorbin, Jun-29-02 04:06 AM, #1
RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), DSMeclipseGS, Jun-29-02 04:35 AM, #2
      RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), Teamdougie2, Jun-29-02 04:40 AM, #3
           RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), mcgyvr, Jun-29-02 07:51 AM, #4
                RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), DSMeclipseGS, Jun-29-02 12:41 PM, #5
                RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), mcgyvr, Jun-30-02 03:41 AM, #6
                     RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), ghostshellx, Jun-30-02 04:13 AM, #7
                          RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), alain95i4, Jun-30-02 12:39 PM, #8
                RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), ModeratorCorbin, Jun-30-02 06:01 AM, #9
                     RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), mcgyvr, Jul-01-02 12:30 AM, #10
                          RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), ModeratorCorbin, Jul-01-02 10:04 AM, #11
                               RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), ghostshellx, Jul-02-02 10:41 PM, #12
                                    RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), mcgyvr, Jul-03-02 12:42 AM, #13
                                         RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), Z87RSMan, Jul-03-02 08:27 AM, #14
                                              RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), ghostshellx, Jul-04-02 08:05 AM, #15
                                                   RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), RoboTechDSM, Jul-04-02 02:47 PM, #16
                                                        RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), ModeratorCorbin, Jul-05-02 01:48 AM, #17
                                                             RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), carolinacat, Jul-05-02 10:39 AM, #18
                                                                  RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), alain95i4, Jul-06-02 01:25 PM, #19
                                                                       RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod), Dirty, Jul-12-02 07:29 AM, #20

ModeratorCorbinJun-29-02 04:06 AM
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#26247, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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That link's been kicking around for a couple months. I've been dying to do it, but been too broke. I'm going to order my gears in a couple weeks.


Corbin

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DSMeclipseGSJun-29-02 04:35 AM
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#26248, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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Hmmm. so it actually works. I'll have to gve it a try.

MODS:

HRC 16g turbo kit, Spearco custom FMIC, Custom IC piping, VT rebuilt engine: Custom 8.8:1 compression CP pistons, Eagle connecting rods, Melling oil pump, Clevite bearings, 370cc injectors, Vortech S-FMU, Apexi N-1 catback exhaust, AFX UDP, Autometer boost gauge, fuel pressure gauge, EGT gauge, Corbin's digital A/F gauge, Tokico Blue shocks, Tein springs (1.5" drop), 18" Konig Verdicts rims, VIS stock-style Carbon fiber hood

  

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Teamdougie2Jun-29-02 04:40 AM
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#26249, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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Some guys over at ASOG have done it...



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mcgyvrJun-29-02 07:51 AM
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#26250, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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best modification for little over 100 bucks, believe it or not its a .6 sec gain in the 1/4 mile. but its also a 6% loss in fuel economy, and your speedo will be off by approx 3-6 mph (based on 16" rims). but it works schweet. really narrows the field between auto and manual. And with a high stall TC your moving even better.

1998 dodge avenger 4 cyl AT
Mods are:
Not enough

  

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DSMeclipseGSJun-29-02 12:41 PM
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#26251, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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Hey where did you get the drive gears from? Did you just go to a Chrysler dealership or what? Thanks.

Anyone else do this by the way?

MODS:

HRC 16g turbo kit, Spearco custom FMIC, Custom IC piping, VT rebuilt engine: Custom 8.8:1 compression CP pistons, Eagle connecting rods, Melling oil pump, Clevite bearings, 370cc injectors, Vortech S-FMU, Apexi N-1 catback exhaust, AFX UDP, Autometer boost gauge, fuel pressure gauge, EGT gauge, Corbin's digital A/F gauge, Tokico Blue shocks, Tein springs (1.5" drop), 18" Konig Verdicts rims, VIS stock-style Carbon fiber hood

  

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mcgyvrJun-30-02 03:41 AM
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#26252, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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get them from bob kise, there is a post somewhere with his info he gives like 15% over cost, it comes to like a little over 100 bucks

1998 dodge avenger 4 cyl AT
Mods are:
Not enough

  

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ghostshellxJun-30-02 04:13 AM
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#26253, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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this is for an auto right?

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alain95i4Jun-30-02 12:39 PM
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#26254, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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>this is for an auto right?

Yes it's for the auto only
A few guys on ASOG have done it, they all have the 2.5 V6 engine
AFAIK no one yet have done it on the I4

Basically you are swapping the final drive gears of the A604 tranny for the gears of the Stratus/Breeze with the 2.0 SOHC and auto tranny

Alain

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ModeratorCorbinJun-30-02 06:01 AM
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#26255, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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Damn! I forgot about the speedo. It will be off by a percentage, so the error will get larger as you go faster. That sucks. The ECU gets is speed signal from the TCU and the TCU gets it from the output speed sensor. The output speed sensor is before the drive gears that are getting changed. In order to keep your speedo accurate, you'd need a converter box to modify the signal coming from the TCU to ECU. I've seen these before on trucks. These guys get them when they put huge tires on. Anybody know where to get one of these converter boxes? I know I need an accurate speedo...


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Gimme fuel...Gimme fire...Gimme that which I desire

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mcgyvrJul-01-02 12:30 AM
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#26256, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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Corbin, all you have to do its go into the dealership and have them use their DRBIII tool to set the correct pinion angle after you install the gears

1998 dodge avenger 4 cyl AT
Mods are:
Not enough

  

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ModeratorCorbinJul-01-02 10:04 AM
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#26257, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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The DRBIII is the scan tool right? I didn't realize it could actually changer parameters (thought it just scanned). Could you give me a more detailed description of what needs to be done and what I have to tell them. From my past experience, they aren't going to have a clue what I'm talking about...and I'm going to have to convince them it is possible.


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ghostshellxJul-02-02 10:41 PM
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#26258, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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is there any reason why this wouldn't work on our tranny's? has anyone done it to an eclipse?

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mcgyvrJul-03-02 12:42 AM
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#26259, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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have a DRBIII tool set the pinion angle to 225*50*15 after you install the gears and you should be close. There is a formula somewhere, but I cant find it right now.

And yes this mod should work just fine, you have the same trannnies as the avenger, but again you must have a tranny cooler in place first before doing this modification.

1998 dodge avenger 4 cyl AT
Mods are:
Not enough

  

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Z87RSManJul-03-02 08:27 AM
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#26260, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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Or you could just get a stick.

Luke

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ghostshellxJul-04-02 08:05 AM
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#26261, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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why do u have to have a tranny cooler in place?

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RoboTechDSMJul-04-02 02:47 PM
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#26262, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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I would assume since it's putting a bit more strain on the tranny.



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#26263, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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Its not really putting more strain on the tranny...its actually making most of the tranny's job easier (giving it more mechanical advantage). The differential and driveshafts will see more torque though. You will be running a slightly higher RPM in every gear, so that might make you want a cooler. I still haven't heard if anyone has done this to a I-4 2GNT...just V6's. I'm going to have to pop open that side panel on my trans to count the gear teeth...to make sure we don't already have gears of that ratio.


Corbin

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HRC+FMIC+ETC...



Gimme fuel...Gimme fire...Gimme that which I desire

Corbin
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#26264, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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Yes its been done to an eclipse. I鈥檝e had it done for about a month now and it really does help out. Its really quite easy to install, just make sure you have a steering wheel puller like the write up says and a really long breaker bar. I don鈥檛 recommend using an impact gun because the vibration from the impact hammer can ruin the bearings. Also a tranny cooler would be a wise investment as well.

  

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alain95i4Jul-06-02 01:25 PM
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#26265, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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How noticeable was it on the eclipse ?
And did if you still have the old gears can you do a tooth counts
so we will know

Alain

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#26266, "RE: Drive gears (acceleration mod)"
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Has anyone else done this yet?


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