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97GS ATApr-09-02 11:07 AM
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#19756, "not much torque after two week"


          

I had the UDP ,cams and 5 zigen rear section installed during the spring break(two weeks be4) and I was quite satisfied with the result. However, I notice that the car pull not that hard now compare with two weeks be4, I think it happened after I filled the gas(92 Sunacco), any idea what happened?

Ken

5 zigen rear section
Cherrybomb glasspack resonator
AFX UDP
Fidanza cam gears
Power Stop cross drill rotors(front)
shunk 2 coilover
Koni adjustable (front)
KYB struts(rear)
Konig V-racing strut bar
Enkei RSF 2 17" with Kumho
Nakayama projectors
APC Clear tail light
and interior mods



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RE: not much torque after two week, Eclipse97, Apr-09-02 11:21 AM, #1
RE: not much torque after two week, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Apr-09-02 11:40 AM, #2
      RE: not much torque after two week, Weezle745, Apr-09-02 11:52 AM, #3
           RE: not much torque after two week, 97GS AT, Apr-09-02 01:20 PM, #4
                RE: not much torque after two week, Teameclipse804, Apr-09-02 01:38 PM, #5
                RE: not much torque after two week, 97GS AT, Apr-09-02 01:41 PM, #6
                RE: not much torque after two week, Teamdougie2, Apr-09-02 01:50 PM, #7
                     RE: not much torque after two week, 97GS AT, Apr-09-02 01:55 PM, #8
                          RE: not much torque after two week, Teamdougie2, Apr-09-02 02:47 PM, #9
                RE: not much torque after two week, LS1Z28Chris, Apr-10-02 02:33 AM, #10
                     RE: not much torque after two week, FuSi0N, Apr-10-02 02:39 AM, #11
                RE: not much torque after two week, LS1Z28Chris, Apr-10-02 02:37 AM, #12
                     RE: not much torque after two week, thedawg, Apr-10-02 10:21 AM, #13

Eclipse97Apr-09-02 11:21 AM
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#19757, "RE: not much torque after two week"
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maybe you got used to it and don't feel it anymore.?

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Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneApr-09-02 11:40 AM
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#19758, "RE: not much torque after two week"
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I'm almost certain this is it. The car isn't any slower, you just got used to it. So mod it some more emoji

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Weezle745Apr-09-02 11:52 AM
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#19759, "RE: not much torque after two week"
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When I did my first mod, my car felt faster and then a week later it felt slow again. Its all in the mind and how you get used to your car. A TT Supra owner probably feels a GSX is slow but a Honda Civic DX owner probably feels that a GSX is oh so fast. Its all about what your used to.

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97GS ATApr-09-02 01:20 PM
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#19760, "RE: not much torque after two week"
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I feel I have to step in more gas to reach the same speed that I used to drive, is it really I just get used to it?

Ken

5 zigen rear section
Cherrybomb glasspack resonator
AFX UDP
Fidanza cam gears
Power Stop cross drill rotors(front)
shunk 2 coilover
Koni adjustable (front)
KYB struts(rear)
Konig V-racing strut bar
Enkei RSF 2 17" with Kumho
Nakayama projectors
APC Clear tail light
and interior mods



Ken


5zigen rearsection/Cherrybomb glasspack resonator/Bosal header/injen short ram intake/ported TB/AFX UDP/Fidanza cam gears/Power Stop cross drill rotors(fron

  

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Teameclipse804Apr-09-02 01:38 PM
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#19761, "RE: not much torque after two week"
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> I feel I have to step in more gas to reach the same
>speed that I used to drive, is it really I just get used to
>it?

Yes, for sure. Any new mod will make you think you're faster, even if it makes no difference (sometimes psychological). But after a while, you get used to it, so you don't feel faster.

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97GS ATApr-09-02 01:41 PM
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#19762, "RE: not much torque after two week"
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damn....I shdn't done that! j/k

Ken

5 zigen rear section
Cherrybomb glasspack resonator
AFX UDP
Fidanza cam gears
Power Stop cross drill rotors(front)
shunk 2 coilover
Koni adjustable (front)
KYB struts(rear)
Konig V-racing strut bar
Enkei RSF 2 17" with Kumho
Nakayama projectors
APC Clear tail light
and interior mods



Ken


5zigen rearsection/Cherrybomb glasspack resonator/Bosal header/injen short ram intake/ported TB/AFX UDP/Fidanza cam gears/Power Stop cross drill rotors(fron

  

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Teamdougie2Apr-09-02 01:50 PM
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#19763, "RE: not much torque after two week"
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I would say you probably got used to it but check out those cam gears since that's the last mod you did. Maybe it IS slower. Just my 2 cents...



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97GS ATApr-09-02 01:55 PM
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#19764, "RE: not much torque after two week"
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how shd I check them out? they look normal.

Ken

5 zigen rear section
Cherrybomb glasspack resonator
AFX UDP
Fidanza cam gears
Power Stop cross drill rotors(front)
shunk 2 coilover
Koni adjustable (front)
KYB struts(rear)
Konig V-racing strut bar
Enkei RSF 2 17" with Kumho
Nakayama projectors
APC Clear tail light
and interior mods



Ken


5zigen rearsection/Cherrybomb glasspack resonator/Bosal header/injen short ram intake/ported TB/AFX UDP/Fidanza cam gears/Power Stop cross drill rotors(fron

  

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Teamdougie2Apr-09-02 02:47 PM
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#19765, "RE: not much torque after two week"
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Just see if they're holding the settings that you set them up. For example, if your I/E settings are -2/2... make sure that's what they're still set at. I see you have the Fidanza gears which use 5 locking studs, so you probably just got used to the new mods. emoji Time to dig a little deeper for more mods!



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LS1Z28ChrisApr-10-02 02:33 AM
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#19766, "RE: not much torque after two week"
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>> I feel I have to step in more gas to reach the same
>>speed that I used to drive, is it really I just get used to
>>it?
>
>Yes, for sure. Any new mod will make you think you're
>faster, even if it makes no difference (sometimes
>psychological). But after a while, you get used to it, so
>you don't feel faster.

Placebo effect. emoji

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The Car: Silver 2000 M6 Camaro Z28, Black leather interior, t-tops.

The Mods:

Performance Mods: Carbon Fiber Whisper Lid, FRA mod, a K&N air filter, SLP Loudmouth cat-back exhuast, and NGK TR-55 spark plugs gapped to .050.

Appearance Mods: Black billet grille, and black carbon fiber look CAMARO letters for rear fascia, removed Z28 emblems.

Misc: A two stage DEI motion sensor for when the t-tops are off.

The Website: http://www.geocities.com/ls1z28chris">www.geocities.com/ls1z28chris

321.4 horsepower and 338.5 ft. lbs. torque at the rear wheels.

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#19767, "RE: not much torque after two week"
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Its possible to get desensatized to the feel of the engine, its sort of like turning off you radio at a cetrain volume when you park your car, then when you come back and turn it on the radio feels like its blasting.

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LS1Z28ChrisApr-10-02 02:37 AM
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#19768, "RE: not much torque after two week"
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> I feel I have to step in more gas to reach the same
>speed that I used to drive, is it really I just get used to
>it?
>
>Ken
>
>5 zigen rear section
>Cherrybomb glasspack resonator
>AFX UDP
>Fidanza cam gears
>Power Stop cross drill rotors(front)
>shunk 2 coilover
>Koni adjustable (front)
>KYB struts(rear)
>Konig V-racing strut bar
>Enkei RSF 2 17" with Kumho
>Nakayama projectors
>APC Clear tail light
>and interior mods
>
>

To be honest, your ass will never be as good an indicator of power gained or lost as much as a dyno. If you've got runs from before you did this mod, go the the track and test it out. Get a before and after to assess the problem. If the track is too far, and you feel you really have lost a considerable amount of power, go pay $65 and get some dyno runs done.

Chris

The Car: Silver 2000 M6 Camaro Z28, Black leather interior, t-tops.

The Mods:
Performance Mods: Carbon Fiber Whisper Lid, FRA mod, a K&N air filter, SLP Loudmouth cat-back exhuast, and NGK TR-55 spark plugs gapped to .050.
Appearance Mods: Black billet grille, and black carbon fiber look CAMARO letters for rear fascia, removed Z28 emblems.
Misc: A two stage DEI motion sensor for when the t-tops are off.

The Website: http://www.geocities.com/ls1z28chris">www.geocities.com/ls1z28chris

321.4 horsepower and 338.5 ft. lbs. torque at the rear wheels.

13.729@105.8 mph with a 2.347 60'. emoji

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
***Mod List*Dyno Chart*Timeslips***
http://www.geocities.com/ls1z28chris/sig.htm

***Full Website***
http://www.geocities.com/ls1z28chris

  

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thedawgApr-10-02 10:21 AM
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#19769, "RE: not much torque after two week"
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Maybe the ECU learned about the new cams?

I probably have no idea what I'm talking about... but I have noticed that my car is way more powerful after my girlfriend has been driving it. She babies the throttle, and hardly ever revs over 4k RPM.

I've done 0-100 and 1/4 mile road tests before and after, and it is definitely faster. It's like the ECU changes the long term fuel trim for her. After I take over and drive for a few minutes, it goes back to producing less power.


  

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