many of my friends r telling me to buy cam gears, i've looked at some prices and they can be pretty pricey.
what are the gains...
thanks guys
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#18499, "RE: just a quick q, are can gears woth it?" In response to Reply # 0
They are worth it if you can have them tuned on a dyno, thats the best way to be able to get appropriate gains from them, also good if you have different cams, the can calm a wild idle as well
#18500, "RE: just a quick q, are can gears woth it?" In response to Reply # 1
Import Tuner got about 7hp to the wheels fromthe cam gears. They also said that that power was found throughout the entire rev range and not just at the peak
Toney '97 RS 5 Speed (totaled) 15.4606@88.42 Mph 96 Toyota Celica GT 88 Toyota Supra NA-T (w/ sports package) Got Boost?? Hell yeah I-6 turbo powah baby!
#18503, "RE: just a quick q, are can gears woth it?" In response to Reply # 4
Fidanza had problems from what the neon guys experienced, and I would definitely stick with AEM. My AEM cam gears still look perfect after about 2 years, and their new bolts are so much easier to adjust and tighten (8 mm hex bolt). I think the cheapest was 270 from howell. If there is a lot of interest, I can see what I can work out either through me, or through another local shop. It probably wouldn't me too much cheaper than 270 though.
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2004 WRX - WR Blue Pearl 1997 Eclipse GS - Royal Sapphire Pearl
#18504, "RE: just a quick q, are can gears woth it?" In response to Reply # 5
I would be interested, even if you could get them for me for $270, hell even if you can get them for $300, it beats $350!!!
I didn't think howell sold AEM, just fidanza cam gears (and I heard about problems with the fidanza as well)
let me know if anyone else is interested, I think since so many sources have shown (with proper tuning) that they do give gains on the stock cams, it'd be worth the purchase.
besides, I only have so many bolt-ons left I can do
#18506, "RE: just a quick q, are can gears woth it?" In response to Reply # 7
i'm almost positive you can, i think it gives you more gains when a turbo is involved also. but you should probably get it re-dyno'd when you put a turbo on there.
#18507, "RE: just a quick q, are can gears woth it?" In response to Reply # 8
Basically the adjusting the cams with the gears effects how air/fuel gets in and exhaust gets out of the engine. This will help if PROPERLY tuned on All Motor, Nitrous, and Turbo applications.
#18508, "RE: just a quick q, are can gears woth it?" In response to Reply # 9
I have the aem cam gears and they did not help on the dyno. The shop I had the car dyno'd at was AEBS in Cali. It was on the dyno for 6hrs. I managed to get 300 to the wheels yet the car didnt like anything we did with the cam gears. I wouldnt spend the money unless you've done all the other major bolt ons. Late Mike
13.8 @108
stage BIG custom mj racing turbo set up, built block.worked head,all tial components, hks evcez,spearco 992,oh yeah and a huge bottle in the trunk last run all turbo 13.8@108 no nos dyno'd at AEBS in Cali with 300+ hp to the wheels
#18509, "RE: just a quick q, are can gears woth it?" In response to Reply # 10
Really? I got about a 5 hp gain through most of the power band on the dyno, and Murix got a 10 hp gain when he dyno'd his. We both found intake advance 2 and exhaust retard 2 degrees was best on a stock head. Now with my milled head, I have no idea how to tune it for max gain, and think I will need a lot more dyno time to figure it out.
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2004 WRX - WR Blue Pearl 1997 Eclipse GS - Royal Sapphire Pearl
#18510, "RE: just a quick q, are can gears woth it?" In response to Reply # 11
yeah, way too much $$ for me right now, i'll stick to the basics till i get my motor rebuild. thanks guys.
the ppl who were telling me about it are all like whooo, get cam gears its the same as a V-tech wooo, then maybe you'll have somthing.
they all want me to race them but every time they want to there is mad traffic and i just don't race though traffic.
they'll see some day
mods: star stage III clutch full exhause cai sparkplugs(needing new ones, any ideas?> platnum plus window tint all black interior altezas
future mods(in no particular order): engine rebuild turbo..... lower it wheels seats exhaust piant job turbo wing hood body kit neons all around projectors new altezas new stereo equipment and more that will be kept secret for now
#18511, "RE: just a quick q, are can gears woth it?" In response to Reply # 12
Same as the v-tech huh...I guess if you crawled out of the car while it was moving and adjusted them...you would get almost the same effect. Anyway, although expensive Unorthodox racing makes some nice cam gears (5 bolts). I just changed mine since I was doing a 60K service.
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