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Racer XMar-25-02 01:45 AM
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#18325, "PVC CAI on mods page"


          

What's up all? To start, I don't own an Eclipse. Hell, my car isn't even Japanese! You'll see me with the same username at Tauruscarclub.com... but anyway, about the PVC CAI...

We thought it was a great idea too! And some of us began to implement it, until we found out something disturbing. I'm not sure that this will you effect you as much as us, since we all have V6's, and higher underhood temps, but it's still something to consider.

If you weren't aware, PVC is the abbreviation for Poly Vinyl Chloride. As it's heated, PVC won't immediately melt. However, what it will do is decompose. One of the decomposition byproducts is Hydrocloric Acid. HCl for short. The HCl will make it's way to your engine in a gaseous state, and over time, will seriously mess up things. To the point that one day, well, you gonna find yourself looking for a new engine.

This was a big issue with us, because our underhood temps are insane most of the time. I'm not sure if it's the same with you guys, but even if it isn't, it's something to consider. Good luck with your rides...

  

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RE: PVC CAI on mods page, 95eclipsegsna, Mar-25-02 02:18 AM, #1
RE: PVC CAI on mods page, babybeclipse, Mar-25-02 03:26 AM, #2
      RE: PVC CAI on mods page, 1TuffRS, Mar-25-02 03:41 AM, #3
      RE: PVC CAI on mods page, soldier101, Mar-25-02 04:37 AM, #4
           RE: PVC CAI on mods page, 1TuffRS, Mar-25-02 07:14 AM, #5
                RE: PVC CAI on mods page, mcgyvr, Mar-25-02 08:13 AM, #6
      RE: PVC CAI on mods page, Racer X, Mar-25-02 09:17 AM, #7
           RE: PVC CAI on mods page, soldier101, Mar-25-02 10:45 AM, #8
                RE: PVC CAI on mods page, domr, Mar-25-02 02:20 PM, #9
                     RE: PVC CAI on mods page, mcgyvr, Mar-26-02 12:26 AM, #10
RE: PVC CAI on mods page, mbenz910, Mar-26-02 01:52 AM, #11
RE: PVC CAI on mods page, eclipticrider, Mar-26-02 02:46 PM, #12
      RE: PVC CAI on mods page, ModeratorEvuLFleA, Mar-26-02 03:50 PM, #13
           RE: PVC CAI on mods page, Teameclipse804, Mar-26-02 04:18 PM, #14
                RE: PVC CAI on mods page, mitsuman, Mar-26-02 06:00 PM, #15
                     RE: PVC CAI on mods page, HadesOmega, Mar-26-02 08:33 PM, #16
                          RE: PVC CAI on mods page, eclipticrider, Mar-27-02 01:01 AM, #17

95eclipsegsnaMar-25-02 02:18 AM
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#18326, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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yea..very true...PVC will melt fakin up your engine - am i wrong??

  

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babybeclipseMar-25-02 03:26 AM
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#18327, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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I think our motor are too small to have that problem. But- if that is the case, Just vent it to outside the engine compartment.

Problem solved.

  

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1TuffRSMar-25-02 03:41 AM
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#18328, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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well i took mine off a while ago, but I didnt realize that that could happen. Well i didnt take it off, rather it fell off and I ran it over hehe. I have a bored stock intake for now until I eventually go turbo




Toney
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15.4606@88.42 Mph
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Got Boost?? Hell yeah I-6 turbo powah baby!

  

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soldier101Mar-25-02 04:37 AM
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#18329, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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Thanks for the warning man, appreciate it

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1TuffRSMar-25-02 07:14 AM
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#18330, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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soldier if you dont have any mods done yet you should do the free airbox mod. It gives a very noticeable difference in performance and the sound is pretty amazing. I plan on doing this until I go turbo and no longer need the intake piping




Toney
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mcgyvrMar-25-02 08:13 AM
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#18331, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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Thats why you shouldn't use PVC for a bong, the gas it creates when its hot is bad for you, real bad. of course so is smoking but you get the point

same is true for copper, DONT use copper to make a pipe/bong

1998 dodge avenger 4 cyl AT
Mods are:
Not enough

  

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Racer XMar-25-02 09:17 AM
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#18332, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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>I think our motor are too small to have that problem. But-
>if that is the case, Just vent it to outside the engine
>compartment.
>
>Problem solved.

The problem is not so much the gas developed outside the tube, but the gas developed inside that gets sucked into your engine. That is what causes the damage.

  

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soldier101Mar-25-02 10:45 AM
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#18333, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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thanks tuff, I'm looking at some temporary gains until my turbo fund reaches full capacity

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domrMar-25-02 02:20 PM
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#18334, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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What about using ABS plastic? I looked for this at the hardware store and couldn't find it. Anyone know where to get some? Thanks.

Dom

  

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mcgyvrMar-26-02 12:26 AM
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#18335, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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abs is okay but its too expensive to use, its cheaper to buy a procarparts intake

1998 dodge avenger 4 cyl AT
Mods are:
Not enough

  

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mbenz910Mar-26-02 01:52 AM
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#18336, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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Isn't the Iceman made of a pvc like plastic? How is that different?

AEM CAI/ AFX UDP/ GST Muffler/ Magnecors/ NGK plugs/ Intrax Springs/ Symbroski Shift Kit

  

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#18337, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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auctually what i'm planning on doing now (thanks for the info racer x) is buying the part of the intake in abs (the part by the motor) and keeping the rest pvc since that part dosen't get hot. that way i can still cut back on costs.

geez i've had mine on for amost a year now.



mods:
star stage III clutch
full exhause
cai
sparkplugs(needing new ones, any ideas?>
platnum plus window tint
all black interior
altezas

future mods(in no particular order):
engine rebuild
turbo.....
lower it
wheels
seats
exhaust
piant job
turbo wing
hood
body kit
neons all around
projectors
new altezas
new stereo equipment
and more that will be kept secret for now

  

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ModeratorEvuLFleAMar-26-02 03:50 PM
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#18338, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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To make things really easy its easy as hell just to buy a cone intake and stick that on the end of your stock plumbing.

Im sure it would cost about the same as PVC piping $15 and it looks better, performs the same, no worries, cheaper, and it isnt a freaking PVC pipe.

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#18339, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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Plus, you can just buy a generic intake with chrome piping for 80 bucks or less, it looks nice and you won't have to worry about these things. Just save up for it...

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#18340, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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i agree with eclipse804. jes save up for a generic brand cai. until then jes do the free air box mod.

you can find some pretty cheap cai. i found mine for 40 bux. it was AEM too. look around you will find sumthin.

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-mitsuman

Turbo:
1. HRC STG 2
2. Blits SS BOV
3. HKS Turbo timer

Exhaust:
1. Greddy Power Extreme

Ride:
1. Motegi MR7 17'' wrapped
in yokohama A550v
235/45/17

Sound:
1. sony xplod cdxm620 deck
2. 2 10'' audiobahn subs
3. nice shiny audiobahn
amp

In room:
1. blitz front end(thnx 2
eclipse804)
2. H&R sport springs(thnx 2
eclipse804)

Fun mods:
1. "Nozzel mod"

Wanted:
1. to much ish to list



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#18341, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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whew well good for me i used ABS piping material! emoji



and yes PVC piping is poisonous too if it catches on fire your gonna die haha that's why their careful where they put it in buildings.


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eclipticriderMar-27-02 01:01 AM
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#18342, "RE: PVC CAI on mods page"
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damn all this time i never knew this... i've had that shit on for a year now. i hope that the 10 coats of hi-temp engine paint helped.

all well, i'm getting a real cai fri/sat.



mods:
star stage III clutch
full exhause
cai
sparkplugs(needing new ones, any ideas?>
platnum plus window tint
all black interior
altezas

future mods(in no particular order):
engine rebuild
turbo.....
lower it
wheels
seats
exhaust
piant job
turbo wing
hood
body kit
neons all around
projectors
new altezas
new stereo equipment
and more that will be kept secret for now

  

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