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95eclipsegsnaMar-22-02 02:37 AM
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#18120, "bored throttle body??"


          

Honestly does a BTB do any good?

  

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RE: bored throttle body??, vegasdsmr, Mar-22-02 03:17 AM, #1
RE: bored throttle body??, whodatt1, Mar-22-02 03:30 AM, #2
      RE: bored throttle body??, whodatt1, Mar-22-02 03:31 AM, #3
           RE: bored throttle body??, GorkoRacing, Mar-22-02 04:02 AM, #4
           RE: bored throttle body??, 95eclipsegsna, Mar-22-02 04:03 AM, #5
                RE: bored throttle body??, ourformerselves, Mar-22-02 04:26 AM, #6
RE: bored throttle body??, Titan, Mar-22-02 04:56 AM, #7
RE: bored throttle body??, proDMD, Mar-22-02 05:02 AM, #8
RE: bored throttle body??, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Mar-22-02 05:04 AM, #9
      RE: bored throttle body??, Titan, Mar-22-02 05:29 AM, #10
           RE: bored throttle body??, kriot, Mar-22-02 06:51 AM, #11
                RE: bored throttle body??, bigbrent88, Mar-22-02 06:58 AM, #12
                     RE: bored throttle body??, LunarEclipse, Mar-22-02 08:37 AM, #13
                          RE: bored throttle body??, bigbrent88, Mar-22-02 08:45 AM, #14
                               RE: bored throttle body??, 95eclipsegsna, Mar-22-02 09:08 AM, #15
                                    RE: bored throttle body??, damasta, Mar-22-02 10:03 AM, #16
                                         RE: bored throttle body??, LunarEclipse, Mar-22-02 11:05 AM, #17
                                              RE: bored throttle body??, LunarEclipse, Mar-22-02 11:14 AM, #18

vegasdsmrMar-22-02 03:17 AM
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#18121, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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i feel mine ecery time i step on the gas

03 srt-4 13.130@112.47mph (n2o, stock turbo, 10/2003)
now: 20g, portfueler, bpu+++ (track/dyno times tbd...)

i farted on your wiki

  

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whodatt1Mar-22-02 03:30 AM
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#18122, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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short answer=yes.

-97 GS (First project, 299 whp)(sold)
- 97 RS 2.6 last numbers: 306hp, 352tq @16psi (Dead, parted out)
- 99 GS OZ, Hahn Kit, 56k miles (Sold)
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- 00 Nissan Maxima GLE (Daily Driver)
- 02 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro

  

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whodatt1Mar-22-02 03:31 AM
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#18123, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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by boring the tb what you are doing is allowing for a better flow of air into the intake manifold. more air=more o2 which = increase power.

-97 GS (First project, 299 whp)(sold)
- 97 RS 2.6 last numbers: 306hp, 352tq @16psi (Dead, parted out)
- 99 GS OZ, Hahn Kit, 56k miles (Sold)
--------
- 00 Nissan Maxima GLE (Daily Driver)
- 02 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro

  

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GorkoRacingMar-22-02 04:02 AM
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#18124, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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Also to add on to what whodatt said it will have a faster throttle response. I am gonna get mine done soon too.

  

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95eclipsegsnaMar-22-02 04:03 AM
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#18125, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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is it hard to replace?? where abouts it it on the engine?? its not by the intake manifold is it?? would you reccomend it as a mod?

  

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ourformerselvesMar-22-02 04:26 AM
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#18126, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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The throttle body is attached on between the intake manifold & your intake tube/pipe.


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TitanMar-22-02 04:56 AM
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#18127, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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if your TB is already the same ID as your intake manifold, it wouldn't do much of anything, it could hinder performance as thier would be a step that the air would have to pass over

Ditch the bitch, let's go racing!

Nope, the eclipse isn't my car, I'm on the left

  

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proDMDMar-22-02 05:02 AM
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#18128, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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I rank it right up there with UDP..great mod for the $$ I love min


AFX/UDP,AEM,AF/X 55mm TB,50 shot of NOS,Glenn's short shifter,17" tantrum,prokit KYB AGX,JL stealthbox sony headunit,audiobahn amp,M3 style mirrors,Blue leds,yellow fogs,reverse ind,w

  

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#18129, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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>if your TB is already the same ID as your intake manifold,


It is not, or else this mod would never have been done.

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TitanMar-22-02 05:29 AM
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#18130, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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just got that info you guys do get a nice kick out of this mod

Ditch the bitch, let's go racing!

Nope, the eclipse isn't my car, I'm on the left

  

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kriotMar-22-02 06:51 AM
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#18131, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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i'm going to be boring the tb out soon, anyone have any numbers? how much hp did it add?

kc

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gst exhaust, iceman intake, af/x udp, accell wires, ngk bkre511
soon: af/x tb

  

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bigbrent88Mar-22-02 06:58 AM
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#18132, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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I've come up with an experiment to show how a BTB will help(anyone notice that it looks like Businees to Business). Get a straw and put it into a glass of water. First just suck like normal and slowly speed it up, than try just sucking a quickly as possible. Second use your canines(the pointy teeth) to block off the middle of the straw than repeat what you did before. Notice how the large straw let more liquid go through. Also notice how the blocked straw got the liquid to the top in the same amount of time(during the quick suck)but slowed severly once there. Hope this helps give an idea.

  

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LunarEclipseMar-22-02 08:37 AM
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#18133, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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I did the numbers one nite and came up with a 15% gain from the 52mm throttle body over the stock 46mm size, 15% more room for air to move through

I didn't think 15% was alot but think of it this way, you buy a certain part for your car that states that it will give you a 15% gain of horsepower, Now I think our cars range between 119-122 whp, so a 15% hp gain would range us between 137-140whp, that is a nice gain

or even think of the straw example stated above, its kind of exaggerated in my way of explaining it but take one of those tiny red coffee straws you use to stir coffee, and suck through it, its hard as hell, now go and get you one of those jumbo straws they give for slurpees and slushies and suck through it, gives you more of an example

if my numbers seem off or wrong, put me in my place



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bigbrent88Mar-22-02 08:45 AM
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#18134, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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I don't thnk its 15%, just cause you get that much mroe air doesnt mean an exact power increase. Its probably closer to 3-5% gain.

  

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95eclipsegsnaMar-22-02 09:08 AM
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#18135, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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what would you people reccommend me doing - a 52MM TB or a 55MM TB people who have done it naturally 55 would be better but is the difference between a 52 and 55 noticable?? what you be the best to get 52 or 55

  

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#18136, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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I'd suggest boring it to 55mm seeing as how it's 52mm stock.

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LunarEclipseMar-22-02 11:05 AM
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#18137, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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not 15% gain, that was my example
the stock throttle body is 52, I went over my numbers and it is a 11.8% increase in volume size, that is what I meant, of course you are not going to see 12% gain, but with the engine being able to utilize 12% volume size, throttle response should be less resistant anyway when you send it to howell or by the afx one for 250$ or something like that, they bore it to 55mm, I would think there was a reason for not going more than that, the bigger you bore out the inlet, you are going to have to get a larger butterfly whatchamacalit so you don't idle at like 3000rpms



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LunarEclipseMar-22-02 11:14 AM
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#18138, "RE: bored throttle body??"
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oh yeah, I don't know where I got 46mm from, but you get the idea



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