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fast420a83Jun-18-12 12:37 PM
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#136991, "stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"




          

Now lets say I got a turbo kit, and ran it at 8 psi on a stock motor with a good tune and made 215whp. Then I decided to get a highly ported head with stage 2 cams... Can I add this with a stock bottom end since I am not cranking up the boost?

Double check all your coolant and oil lines....., before you take off and see a cloud of smoke behind you!

  

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RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, Smash_NDash, Jun-18-12 12:48 PM, #1
RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, fast420a83, Jun-18-12 12:51 PM, #2
      RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, 740 turbo brick, Jun-18-12 02:17 PM, #3
           RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, Fotowntalon, Jun-18-12 02:33 PM, #4
                RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, Babbz413, Jun-18-12 02:51 PM, #5
                     RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, fast420a83, Jun-20-12 09:40 AM, #6
                          RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, Gruff511, Jun-22-12 11:53 PM, #7
                               RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, fast420a83, Jun-23-12 05:54 PM, #8
                                    RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, Gruff511, Jun-23-12 08:19 PM, #9
                                         RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, fast420a83, Jun-24-12 04:41 PM, #10
                                         RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, Gruff511, Jun-24-12 10:15 PM, #11
                                         RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, 2GdSm2013, Feb-22-13 01:49 PM, #12
                                              RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, eclipse420ags, Feb-22-13 02:32 PM, #13
                                                   RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, Gruff511, Feb-22-13 03:23 PM, #14
                                                        RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Feb-22-13 04:19 PM, #15
                                                             RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, 2GdSm2013, Feb-22-13 10:37 PM, #16
RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?, Socal420aT, Feb-27-13 06:00 PM, #17

Smash_NDashJun-18-12 12:48 PM
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#136993, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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Power is made in the head and kept/held by the bottom end

  

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fast420a83Jun-18-12 12:51 PM
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#136994, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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I understand that. I was just wandering since I would be making more power than 215whp on the stock bottom end, could it handle the added power?

Double check all your coolant and oil lines....., before you take off and see a cloud of smoke behind you!

  

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740 turbo brickJun-18-12 02:17 PM
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#136999, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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As long as its tuned right and has oil pressure, the stock bottom end can take some abuse. You will still be alright after head work. Id consider the Crower 2 Turbo grind cam, as with a standard Crower 2 its designed to overlap to pull in as much air as possible, and with a turbo you will be pushing a lot of that air into the cylinder and out the exhaust valve.


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FotowntalonJun-18-12 02:33 PM
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#137000, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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Parts are generally not rated by psi as much by horsepower/tq (and that's a rather loose rating because of the many variables in rating parts). What I am trying to say is you are still adding power and being turbocharged would be adding it at a more rapid rate with mods. With the being said, I would worry about the rods and the clutch with that kind of power.

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Babbz413Jun-18-12 02:51 PM
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#137001, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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At 8 psi I blew my ring landings on stock pistons at 130,xxx. Boosting for about 15,xxx. Those will more than likely be what gives if anything.

95 GS Boosted

  

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fast420a83Jun-20-12 09:40 AM
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#137003, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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Ok, Thanks guys. I was wandering about the results with adding power though bolt ons, without uping the boost, on a stock bottom end. So.. pretty much forge the pistons and rods.

Double check all your coolant and oil lines....., before you take off and see a cloud of smoke behind you!

  

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Gruff511Jun-22-12 11:53 PM
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#137008, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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Im still on my stock bottom end on 10psi daily with a pretty big port job and I could definitely feel a difference after porting the head as well as a larger throttle body. I didnt dyno though.

  

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fast420a83Jun-23-12 05:54 PM
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#137009, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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Hey Gruff, How many miles did you have on the motor when you went turbo, and how long have you been turboed?

Double check all your coolant and oil lines....., before you take off and see a cloud of smoke behind you!

  

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Gruff511Jun-23-12 08:19 PM
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#137010, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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Well when I got my car I rebuilt the engine with all stock internals with race bearings and Turbo rings and arp headstuds. At around 20k miles I put the Turbo on and I been Turbod for the past 4 years on the same setup.

  

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fast420a83Jun-24-12 04:41 PM
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#137019, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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Nice!. Are you using a Hahn Turbo kit and MegaSquirt to tune it?

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Gruff511Jun-24-12 10:15 PM
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#137022, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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Its not a Hahn I pieced it together.

  

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2GdSm2013Feb-22-13 01:49 PM
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#137722, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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So is turboing a stock setup with 155k at about 6-7psi a bad idea?

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eclipse420agsFeb-22-13 02:32 PM
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#137723, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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Is this your daily driver?

  

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Gruff511Feb-22-13 03:23 PM
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#137724, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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Do a compression test. If your motor is in good shape then you should be good

  

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#137725, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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Stock motor on 7-8psi, as long as you have adequate fueling, is perfectly fine.

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#137727, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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Yes it is my DD. But i really dont push my car at all during daily op. Usually keep the shifts under 3k unless im getting on a ramp for the freeway; then i bilieve it is safe to say everyone feels the temptation to go WOT emoji

1995 GS
Aem CAI, Megan Racing Headers, Borla Catback Exhaust, Royal Purple 10w30, Perfection Clutch slave & Master Cylinder, NGK V-Power Copper Plugs, MSD Wires.

  

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Socal420aTFeb-27-13 06:00 PM
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#137742, "RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?"
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yeah you can

  

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