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Topic subjectstock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
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136991, stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by fast420a83, Jun-18-12 12:37 PM
Now lets say I got a turbo kit, and ran it at 8 psi on a stock motor with a good tune and made 215whp. Then I decided to get a highly ported head with stage 2 cams... Can I add this with a stock bottom end since I am not cranking up the boost?
136993, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by Smash_NDash, Jun-18-12 12:48 PM
Power is made in the head and kept/held by the bottom end
136994, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by fast420a83, Jun-18-12 12:51 PM
I understand that. I was just wandering since I would be making more power than 215whp on the stock bottom end, could it handle the added power?
136999, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by 740 turbo brick, Jun-18-12 02:17 PM
As long as its tuned right and has oil pressure, the stock bottom end can take some abuse. You will still be alright after head work. Id consider the Crower 2 Turbo grind cam, as with a standard Crower 2 its designed to overlap to pull in as much air as possible, and with a turbo you will be pushing a lot of that air into the cylinder and out the exhaust valve.
137000, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by Fotowntalon, Jun-18-12 02:33 PM
Parts are generally not rated by psi as much by horsepower/tq (and that's a rather loose rating because of the many variables in rating parts). What I am trying to say is you are still adding power and being turbocharged would be adding it at a more rapid rate with mods. With the being said, I would worry about the rods and the clutch with that kind of power.
137001, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by Babbz413, Jun-18-12 02:51 PM
At 8 psi I blew my ring landings on stock pistons at 130,xxx. Boosting for about 15,xxx. Those will more than likely be what gives if anything.
137003, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by fast420a83, Jun-20-12 09:40 AM
Ok, Thanks guys. I was wandering about the results with adding power though bolt ons, without uping the boost, on a stock bottom end. So.. pretty much forge the pistons and rods.
137008, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by Gruff511, Jun-22-12 11:53 PM
Im still on my stock bottom end on 10psi daily with a pretty big port job and I could definitely feel a difference after porting the head as well as a larger throttle body. I didnt dyno though.
137009, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by fast420a83, Jun-23-12 05:54 PM
Hey Gruff, How many miles did you have on the motor when you went turbo, and how long have you been turboed?
137010, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by Gruff511, Jun-23-12 08:19 PM
Well when I got my car I rebuilt the engine with all stock internals with race bearings and Turbo rings and arp headstuds. At around 20k miles I put the Turbo on and I been Turbod for the past 4 years on the same setup.
137019, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by fast420a83, Jun-24-12 04:41 PM
Nice!. Are you using a Hahn Turbo kit and MegaSquirt to tune it?
137022, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by Gruff511, Jun-24-12 10:15 PM
Its not a Hahn I pieced it together.
137722, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by 2GdSm2013, Feb-22-13 01:49 PM
So is turboing a stock setup with 155k at about 6-7psi a bad idea?
137723, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by eclipse420ags, Feb-22-13 02:32 PM
Is this your daily driver?
137724, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by Gruff511, Feb-22-13 03:23 PM
Do a compression test. If your motor is in good shape then you should be good
137725, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by DarkOne, Feb-22-13 04:19 PM
Stock motor on 7-8psi, as long as you have adequate fueling, is perfectly fine.
137727, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by 2GdSm2013, Feb-22-13 10:37 PM
Yes it is my DD. But i really dont push my car at all during daily op. Usually keep the shifts under 3k unless im getting on a ramp for the freeway; then i bilieve it is safe to say everyone feels the temptation to go WOT :P
137742, RE: stock motor 8psi turbo vs. stock bottom end 8 psi turbo?
Posted by Socal420aT, Feb-27-13 06:00 PM
yeah you can