I'm trying to decide if I should buy an Innovate LM-2 kit (external meter) or just get one of their gauge kits. I'm leaning towards a gauge kit thought because I kinda like having a digital readout of the AFR. I was looking at the XD-16 + LC-1 kits, but now that they have the new MTX-L gauges with the LC-1 controller built right into the gauge, and they are even cheaper, I was leaning towards one of those.

I want to be able to do data logging in the future though and I'm just not sure how capable the gauge kit or MTX-L's are in this area. I already have an odbii meter, so that's not really a big deal... but it's a nice bonus feature of the LM-2 kits.

I guess I really want to know if anyone has used any of these wideband devices to do data logging and how well they worked.

EDIT: I'm also planning on probably getting a MS ECU at some point too so let me know if that changes things. I know they can do data logging too, but not sure how well these play together. I'm pretty new to the logging/tuning stuff too so take it easy on me if I say something stupid.

Anyone know anyone who can help me tune this in the Pittsburgh area (Greensburg)?

Everyone does lol MTX-L ftw! Love it

Thanks. I'm really leaning towards getting the MTX-L ($170 shipped on ebay) but I just thought there had to be a reason that the XD-16 + LC-1 kits are over double the price ($399).

Why is this? What is the advantage of going the latter route?

EDIT: Used, I can get the XD-16 + LC-1 for about $240. Is it worth it vs. paying $170 for the MTX-L?

Anyone know anyone who can help me tune this in the Pittsburgh area (Greensburg)?

I have the lc-1 gauge kit its nice and easy to read I do not log but like to keep an eye on my A/F. For the money its not bad paid 150 for it new.

Finish? What is this "finish" you speak of sir? Dsm's are never complete just temporarily put together.

97 eclipse gone but never forgotten Ill miss you money pit.

Okay.. well since I see no reason that the LC-1 + XD-16 kit is any better than the MTX-L, I guess I'm getting the MTX-L and hoping for the best.

Anyone know anyone who can help me tune this in the Pittsburgh area (Greensburg)?

I picked up the MTX-L a couple months ago. I am going to be installing in the next few weeks.

The XD-16 is discontinued, replaced with the MTX-L. I don't see why anyone would have any issues with it. Innovate is top notch quality, IMO.

I contributed to the Wiki.

Good to hear. My MTX-L is on the way.

Anyone know anyone who can help me tune this in the Pittsburgh area (Greensburg)?