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westside_210Jan-04-10 11:32 AM
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#129186, "Car goes to low rpms"


          

I changed out the water pump and timing belt I marked the timing on the harmonic balancer but forgot to check the crank shaft sprockets timing but I din't mess with them I had the old timing belt still on when I did the harmonic balancer timing. I put everything on and started right up no hesitation to start would the low rpms be to not doing the top crank shaft sprockets or would it be from the fuel I don't know when the fuel filter has been change and don't know what else to check please HELP!!

  
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RE: Car goes to low rpms, Moderatorteklein, Jan-04-10 11:36 AM, #1
RE: Car goes to low rpms, AdministratorCODE4, Jan-04-10 11:41 AM, #2
RE: Car goes to low rpms, westside_210, Jan-04-10 11:46 AM, #3
RE: Car goes to low rpms, irregular defect, Jan-04-10 12:57 PM, #4
RE: Car goes to low rpms, adamzty, Jan-04-10 01:00 PM, #5
      RE: Car goes to low rpms, westside_210, Jan-04-10 01:47 PM, #6
           RE: Car goes to low rpms, Moderatorteklein, Jan-04-10 02:57 PM, #7
                RE: Car goes to low rpms, westside_210, Jan-04-10 05:18 PM, #8
                     RE: Car goes to low rpms, westside_210, Jan-04-10 05:20 PM, #9
                          RE: Car goes to low rpms, AdministratorCODE4, Jan-04-10 06:09 PM, #10
                               RE: Car goes to low rpms, westside_210, Jan-04-10 06:56 PM, #11
                                    RE: Car goes to low rpms, Ballinboy2318, Jan-04-10 08:12 PM, #12
                                         RE: Car goes to low rpms, westside_210, Jan-04-10 09:15 PM, #13
                                              RE: Car goes to low rpms, AdministratorCODE4, Jan-04-10 09:42 PM, #14
                                                   RE: Car goes to low rpms, westside_210, Jan-04-10 10:29 PM, #15
                                                        RE: Car goes to low rpms, AdministratorCODE4, Jan-04-10 10:45 PM, #16
                                                             RE: Car goes to low rpms, westside_210, Jan-04-10 11:34 PM, #17
                                                                  RE: Car goes to low rpms, Ballinboy2318, Jan-05-10 07:14 AM, #18
                                                                       RE: Car goes to low rpms, justins71, Jan-05-10 08:55 AM, #19
                                                                            RE: Car goes to low rpms, westside_210, Jan-05-10 11:44 AM, #20
                                                                                 RE: Car goes to low rpms, Moderatorbullettdsm, Jan-05-10 12:25 PM, #21
                                                                                      RE: Car goes to low rpms, Ebster1085, Jan-05-10 12:33 PM, #22
                                                                                      RE: Car goes to low rpms, 420agreenvilleSC, Jan-05-10 02:35 PM, #23
                                                                                           RE: Car goes to low rpms, Moderatorteklein, Jan-05-10 03:01 PM, #24

ModeratortekleinJan-04-10 11:36 AM
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#129187, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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Originally posted by westside_210
I changed out the water pump and timing belt I marked the timing on the harmonic balancer but forgot to check the crank shaft sprockets timing but I din't mess with them I had the old timing belt still on when I did the harmonic balancer timing. I put everything on and started right up no hesitation to start would the low rpms be to not doing the top crank shaft sprockets or would it be from the fuel I don't know when the fuel filter has been change and don't know what else to check please HELP!!


I cannot understand any of this.

By "goes low rpms" do you mean it stalls? It wont rev past a certain point?

There is no timing for the crank pulley.

If you didnt check the timing marks (which is what I *think* you meant), then yes, that could be your problem.

  
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AdministratorCODE4Jan-04-10 11:41 AM
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#129188, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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Originally posted by westside_210
Blah Blah I never took an English or literature class in my life...
please HELP!!


Please use punctuation and correct syntax so we can be of some assistance.

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westside_210Jan-04-10 11:46 AM
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#129189, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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The car starts right up it idles fine when started at first but when the car starts heating up to normal temp it goes to a lower idle

  
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irregular defectJan-04-10 12:57 PM
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#129195, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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Is it idling so low that the car stalls and dies? If not, there is no problem. The idle will come down after the car warms up, in fact I think any car I've ever driven does, but as long as its not idling so low that the car stall or dies, than there's no problem.

  
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adamztyJan-04-10 01:00 PM
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#129196, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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Originally posted by westside_210
The car starts right up it idles fine when started at first but when the car starts heating up to normal temp it goes to a lower idle


That's supposed to happen. The ECU will keep the idle high when the car is cold to help warm the engine up faster. Mine idled at about 1100 cold and 800 warm.

  
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westside_210Jan-04-10 01:47 PM
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#129197, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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I know the car idles high when it's cold and lowers when it's warmed up. Never mind I solved my own problem thanks anyways

  
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ModeratortekleinJan-04-10 02:57 PM
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#129199, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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Originally posted by westside_210
I know the car idles high when it's cold and lowers when it's warmed up. Never mind I solved my own problem thanks anyways


What was the problem?

  
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westside_210Jan-04-10 05:18 PM
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#129201, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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the scanner said it was off one or more on the timing belt so i gotta redo the timing all over again damn now i gotta take everything off again

  
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westside_210Jan-04-10 05:20 PM
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#129202, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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how do you reset the timing on the eclipse I got a 95 gs

  
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AdministratorCODE4Jan-04-10 06:09 PM
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#129203, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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Originally posted by westside_210
how do you reset the timing on the eclipse I got a 95 gs


You say that you have to do the timing all over again, leading us to believe you have already done it once, albeit unsuccessfully perhaps.

You are behind the power curve and need to do some searching and a lot of reading before you attempt this.

http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=Timing_Belt_Replacement

Search the archives and wiki.

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westside_210Jan-04-10 06:56 PM
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#129205, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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I already know what to do how would I do the re timing if I jumped 1 or more notches on timing?

  
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Ballinboy2318Jan-04-10 08:12 PM
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#129207, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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your timing didnt jump a tooth you just put it on wrong....just follow the link that was givin step by step...

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westside_210Jan-04-10 09:15 PM
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#129209, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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what did I put on wrong the timing belt?

  
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#129210, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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Originally posted by westside_210
what did I put on wrong the timing belt?


How would we know? What belt did you install? Part #?

Chances are if it went on correctly and you tensioned it right, it was the correct belt.

Again, remove the belt, and follow the instructions in the link to reinstall the belt correctly.

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westside_210Jan-04-10 10:29 PM
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#129213, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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Well how many timing belts are on an eclipse? I'm guessing one maybe. And I don't think the number on the belt has to do anything with me timing the crankshaft it self and the balancer.

  
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#129214, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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Originally posted by westside_210
Well how many timing belts are on an eclipse? I'm guessing one maybe. And I don't think the number on the belt has to do anything with me timing the crankshaft it self and the balancer.




There is one timing belt on your motor. I asked what part number it was because I deciphered your poor sentence structure in the previous post as you asking us if you installed the wrong timing belt, not if you installed the timing belt wrong.

The balancer is not keyed or indexed to the crank in anyway, hence it cannot be installed out-of-time.

The only things you need to be worried about is the indicator on the oil pump & crank sprocket, and the timing marks on your camshaft gears.

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westside_210Jan-04-10 11:34 PM
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#129216, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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Ok now I got a answer I'm looking for and I stated my question easily unless I got to break it down word for word on here to understand where I'm getting too what I meant to say is what did I put on wrong? the timing belt? that's what ballinboy had said I put the belt on wrong? thanks for your help code4

  
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#129221, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=Timing_Belt_Replacement


look at this link and go over this if because this is what you need to time your car right if you didnt do this the first time that is your problem

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#129222, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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The timing belt sound to be off like everyones saying... you can check it easily by pulling your #1 or 4 spark plug, putting a slender clean rod into the cylinder, and rotating the crank until the rod is at it's absolute highest point (like within a degree of rotation on the crank, you need to be very accurate). Then pull your Cam gear inspection cover and look at the marks. They most likely won't be lined up.

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westside_210Jan-05-10 11:44 AM
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#129224, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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So once the #1 piston is all the way up and check if the markings are off? Do I align the markings then?

  
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#129225, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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Originally posted by westside_210
So once the #1 piston is all the way up and check if the markings are off? Do I align the markings then?

Originally posted by Ballinboy2318
http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=Timing_Belt_Replacement look at this link and go over this if because this is what you need to time your car right if you didnt do this the first time that is your problem


Please read!

You can try to guess your way through this and hope you get it right but that would be the WRONG thing to do. Do it right the SECOND time. Do not pass go, do not collect $200 (or whatever the hell it is). Redo your timing corectly. Period. Alright, exclamation point.

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#129227, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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Can someone please lock this thread? I'm sick of looking at this pathetic depiction of the English language.

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#129231, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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Originally posted by bullettdsm
Do not pass go, do not collect $200 (or whatever the hell it is).


lmao

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#129232, "RE: Car goes to low rpms"
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From now on, DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD UNLESS YOU ARE HELPING.

  
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