well finaly got around to checkin my cam timing and this is what i got. IMG]

Ouch! 90 degrees off can't be good. I don't know what's wrong with your engine, but a few years ago my tensioner pulley shat out on me. Without knowing that at the time, I tried to start the car, as well as the mechanic that I took it to repeatedly attempting to start it, without doing any internal damage. I don't know how far off my timing was, probably nowhere near that. Time to crack her open.

DirtMegirt
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Yea i think the tensioner is weak.Head was replaced just 5000 ago or something.Its still brand new.Gunna realighn timing belt and see if its ok.Snd i didnt do it.Bought it like that lol.

I hate when that happens.

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

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Dont we all!might just save up for a longblock.

Erik P.
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Been there, done that.

I had both tensioner and idler bearings fail on a freeway doing 65. The car just lost power and stalled. I left it coasting in gear for at least 10 seconds, and when I stopped I tried to start it because I still didnt know what was going on. Ended up having not one bent valve after taking the head off to check it all out. New headgasket, timing belt and components, all back together.

95 Eclipse GS: 10.5:1, Crower 2's and MSII
186 WHP - 150 WTQ
14.697 @ 93.85 MPH......Gone, but not forgotten
99 420A Avenger: Given to my sister
99 GS OZ: Sold
03 Evo 8: Family Car with balls

So that would deffinatly cause it not to start?

yeah, that would prevent it from starting

Erik P.
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Can the head be pulled w intake on just to see if bent valves?he head was just put on not long ago w new valves.What about lining it back up to see if it will just start?It hasnt started scince i got it.

Easiest way to see if you're screwed is to reset/fix the timing and do a compression test.

sometimes just pulling the valve cover will show you if there's any carnage (loose rockers, gouges in the cam lobes)

Erik P.
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Some say that he's driven over more Covenant than he's shot, and that his grenades aren't where you'd expect them to be...
All we know is, He's not The Stig... But he is The Stig's Spartan cousin!

Best and easiest step is exactly that, reset the timing, do a compression check, and hope no valves hit.

If the valves didn't hit and compression is fine then just put on a new tensioner, tensioner pulley, and idler pulley to make sure it doesn't happen again.

Actually, put those on when you reset the timing as you'll be in there anyway, and even if the valves need replacing you're going to need a new tensioner and such anyway, so might as well put them on now.

"Tutto fa brodo."

Todd Scungio
98 RS
15.173 @ 90.70 MPH

And also a 2011 Ralliart

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

D'OH!

Um, yea... get the belt too heh heh

"Tutto fa brodo."

Todd Scungio
98 RS
15.173 @ 90.70 MPH

And also a 2011 Ralliart