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123612, this cam timing doesnt look good
Posted by boostboyike, Jan-17-09 06:21 PM
well finaly got around to checkin my cam timing and this is what i got. IMG]
123614, RE: this cam timing doesnt look good
Posted by DirtMegirt, Jan-17-09 07:10 PM
Ouch! 90 degrees off can't be good. I don't know what's wrong with your engine, but a few years ago my tensioner pulley shat out on me. Without knowing that at the time, I tried to start the car, as well as the mechanic that I took it to repeatedly attempting to start it, without doing any internal damage. I don't know how far off my timing was, probably nowhere near that. Time to crack her open.
123615, RE: this cam timing doesnt look good
Posted by boostboyike, Jan-17-09 07:18 PM
Yea i think the tensioner is weak.Head was replaced just 5000 ago or something.Its still brand new.Gunna realighn timing belt and see if its ok.Snd i didnt do it.Bought it like that lol.
123617, RE: this cam timing doesnt look good
Posted by bullettdsm, Jan-18-09 03:32 AM
I hate when that happens.
123619, RE: this cam timing doesnt look good
Posted by boostboyike, Jan-18-09 08:39 AM
Dont we all!might just save up for a longblock.
123647, RE: this cam timing doesnt look good
Posted by RoninEclipse2G, Jan-19-09 12:47 PM
Originally posted by bullettdsm
I hate when that happens.


no shit. welcome to the "been there, done that" club.
123649, RE: this cam timing doesnt look good
Posted by 740 turbo brick, Jan-19-09 02:11 PM
Been there, done that.

I had both tensioner and idler bearings fail on a freeway doing 65. The car just lost power and stalled. I left it coasting in gear for at least 10 seconds, and when I stopped I tried to start it because I still didnt know what was going on. Ended up having not one bent valve after taking the head off to check it all out. New headgasket, timing belt and components, all back together.
123650, RE: this cam timing doesnt look good
Posted by boostboyike, Jan-19-09 03:25 PM
So that would deffinatly cause it not to start?
123651, RE: this cam timing doesnt look good
Posted by RoninEclipse2G, Jan-19-09 03:31 PM
yeah, that would prevent it from starting
123652, RE: this cam timing doesnt look good
Posted by boostboyike, Jan-19-09 03:40 PM
Can the head be pulled w intake on just to see if bent valves?he head was just put on not long ago w new valves.What about lining it back up to see if it will just start?It hasnt started scince i got it.
123654, RE: this cam timing doesnt look good
Posted by RoninEclipse2G, Jan-19-09 04:50 PM
Easiest way to see if you're screwed is to reset/fix the timing and do a compression test.

sometimes just pulling the valve cover will show you if there's any carnage (loose rockers, gouges in the cam lobes)
123667, RE: this cam timing doesnt look good
Posted by VX100, Jan-20-09 09:23 PM
Best and easiest step is exactly that, reset the timing, do a compression check, and hope no valves hit.

If the valves didn't hit and compression is fine then just put on a new tensioner, tensioner pulley, and idler pulley to make sure it doesn't happen again.

Actually, put those on when you reset the timing as you'll be in there anyway, and even if the valves need replacing you're going to need a new tensioner and such anyway, so might as well put them on now.
123677, RE: this cam timing doesnt look good
Posted by bullettdsm, Jan-21-09 01:06 PM
Originally posted by VX100
Actually, put those on (and belt)when you reset the timing as you'll be in there anyway, and even if the valves need replacing you're going to need a new tensioner and such anyway, so might as well put them on now.

Ba-BAM! And there is the answer, lol. (I know you meant that too, Todd)

Good luck.

123686, RE: this cam timing doesnt look good
Posted by VX100, Jan-21-09 07:23 PM
D'OH!

Um, yea... get the belt too :) heh heh