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nyBoosted420aJan-27-07 01:55 PM
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#119969, "helppppppppp"


          

i got the 96 eclipse and i just instal the 98 motor in it and the damn car wont start i used my coil from 96 all conectors plugt in except crank and cam sensor so i cut the harneses and swichtem over and the car still wont start im getting fuel and the spark but the shit wont start . so can anybody help me out

  

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RE: helppppppppp, ModeratoreclipzGST, Jan-27-07 02:17 PM, #1
RE: helppppppppp, StreetRacer_21, Jan-27-07 03:12 PM, #2
      RE: helppppppppp, ModeratoreclipzGST, Jan-27-07 04:00 PM, #3
           RE: helppppppppp, kain_99gs, Jan-27-07 04:35 PM, #4
                RE: helppppppppp, TKI, Jan-27-07 04:54 PM, #5
                     RE: helppppppppp, Luis_98eclipseRS, Jan-27-07 05:25 PM, #6
                          RE: helppppppppp, ModeratoreclipzGST, Jan-27-07 11:40 PM, #7
                               RE: helppppppppp, nyBoosted420a, Jan-28-07 06:35 AM, #8
                               RE: helppppppppp, totaleclipse_05, Jan-28-07 07:50 AM, #9
                                    RE: helppppppppp, nyBoosted420a, Jan-29-07 06:55 AM, #10
                                         RE: helppppppppp, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Jan-29-07 07:34 AM, #11
                                              RE: helppppppppp, Blizare, Jan-31-07 05:55 AM, #12
                                                   '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!, Keith2172, Jan-31-07 12:33 PM, #13
                                                        RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!, nyBoosted420a, Feb-01-07 07:47 AM, #14
                                                             RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!, TeamDR1665, Feb-01-07 09:59 AM, #15
                                                                  RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!, nyBoosted420a, Feb-03-07 09:32 AM, #16
                                                                       RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!, nyBoosted420a, Feb-04-07 09:11 AM, #17
                                                                            RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!, Moderatorbullettdsm, Feb-04-07 12:12 PM, #18
                                                                                 RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!, nyBoosted420a, Feb-05-07 04:00 AM, #19
                                                                                      RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!, nyBoosted420a, Feb-10-07 08:50 AM, #20
                                                                                           RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!, nyBoosted420a, Feb-19-07 08:40 AM, #21

ModeratoreclipzGSTJan-27-07 02:17 PM
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#119970, "RE: helppppppppp"
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why didn't you use the coil from the 98?


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#119971, "RE: helppppppppp"
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Originally posted by eclipzGST
why didn't you use the coil from the 98?


Wouldn't mate up with his wiring harness. There are two different coils.

  

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ModeratoreclipzGSTJan-27-07 04:00 PM
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#119972, "RE: helppppppppp"
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well, he's getting spark anyway...
Search and see if maybe you have to swap two of the wires. Maybe the firing order is different between the 2 coils. I don't know, I'm just throwing out ideas. If there's fuel and spark, it should fire...


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#119973, "RE: helppppppppp"
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Timing?


http://talontimes.blogspot.com


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TKIJan-27-07 04:54 PM
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#119974, "RE: helppppppppp"
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I put a '99 on one of my friends '95 and all the wires were the same.

I second the timing check

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Luis_98eclipseRSJan-27-07 05:25 PM
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#119975, "RE: helppppppppp"
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We all know how frustrating it can be when you have a problem with your car, don't know what to do, and it seems like nobody will reply to your thread. Here's a couple things to consider when posting your thread that will help you get the best replies.





HEEEEEEEEELLLLLLP MEEEEEEE PLEEEEEEEEZZE!!!!!1!11!
We've all been there and felt the same way at one point or another. Despite that being how you really feel at the moment, it's not much help at getting replies. To some people, this is seen as ignorant, and they will just ignore your post. Others might check it out, only to discover that they can't help and not reply. If your thread has a title stating what the issue is all about, people who have experience with that problem are more likely to jump into your thread to see if they can help.

  

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#119976, "RE: helppppppppp"
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Originally posted by Luis_98eclipseRS
We all know how frustrating it can be when you have a problem with your car, don't know what to do, and it seems like nobody will reply to your thread. Here's a couple things to consider when posting your thread that will help you get the best replies. HEEEEEEEEELLLLLLP MEEEEEEE PLEEEEEEEEZZE!!!!!1!11! We've all been there and felt the same way at one point or another. Despite that being how you really feel at the moment, it's not much help at getting replies. To some people, this is seen as ignorant, and they will just ignore your post. Others might check it out, only to discover that they can't help and not reply. If your thread has a title stating what the issue is all about, people who have experience with that problem are more likely to jump into your thread to see if they can help.


ummmm.... no.


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Originally posted by Avenger
When I raise the BS flag ... it's a really big fucking flag and I raise it really fucking high too.



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nyBoosted420aJan-28-07 06:35 AM
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#119977, "RE: helppppppppp"
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thanks . the timing is good because the engine was running before i took it out i thin is just one of the sensors but i dont know wich one

  

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#119978, "RE: helppppppppp"
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Originally posted by eclipzGST
Originally posted by Luis_98eclipseRS We all know how frustrating it can be when you have a problem with your car, don't know what to do, and it seems like nobody will reply to your thread. Here's a couple things to consider when posting your thread that will help you get the best replies. HEEEEEEEEELLLLLLP MEEEEEEE PLEEEEEEEEZZE!!!!!1!11! We've all been there and felt the same way at one point or another. Despite that being how you really feel at the moment, it's not much help at getting replies. To some people, this is seen as ignorant, and they will just ignore your post. Others might check it out, only to discover that they can't help and not reply. If your thread has a title stating what the issue is all about, people who have experience with that problem are more likely to jump into your thread to see if they can help.
ummmm.... no.


He was referring to this link:
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=85694&mesg_id=85694&page=

Mike D
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#119979, "RE: helppppppppp"
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so those anybody have any ideas why the car wont start

  

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#119980, "RE: helppppppppp"
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Your getting spark and fuel? So i take it your getting injector pulse? Make sure you didnt revers the two outer coil trigger wires. That will make the coil fire at the wrong time.

Do you have fuel pressure? what is it?

Terry

  

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#119981, "RE: helppppppppp"
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make sure the coil harness is going to the coil and not the Speed sensor like I did. heh. Exact same plugs. 3 wires. and they both reach the coil emoji. would would've thunk. emoji


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#119982, "'98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!"
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If the CAS or CPS were hooked up backwards would it still spark? Would it actually change anything? Shouldn't he be able to check if the coils backwards by moving the center two spark wires to the outer plugs and the outer two wires to the inner plugs, being wasted spark and all?

BTW, I fixed the title emoji

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nyBoosted420aFeb-01-07 07:47 AM
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#119983, "RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!"
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the engine that i instal in my car is from an auto so i dont know is that make any difrence

  

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#119984, "RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!"
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Originally posted by nyBoosted420a
the engine that i instal in my car is from an auto so i dont know is that make any difrence


No difference.

Did you double check the connections to the coil where you cut/spliced? Can you verify that they are correct? Neither the year of the engine nor the transmission should have any bearing on the car running. If it ran before you pulled the engine, but not now, it's related to either something electrical that you missed or messed up, or the planets have aligned to stick it to you at just this moment in time.

Think of the places where you messed with the harness at all and double check them. This has got to be one of those little gremlin-type things, man. Good luck.

  

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#119985, "RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!"
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i got no spark

  

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#119986, "RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!"
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come on guys anybody have any ideas

  

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#119987, "RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!"
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Feb-04-07 12:23 PM by bullettdsm

          

I still haven't seen an answer to the question of are your coil wires reversed? Let's see, on my 97 the brown wire goes to coil 2 + 3 and the blue black wire goes to 1 + 4. The center wire I'm not sure of the color off hand (and I'm watching the game right now).

If that's OK, I would say to double check the cam sensor connection and the crank. Two common areas of concern after putting the engine in and having spark problems.

Crap, I shouldn't answer this while I am watching the game. I just noticed that it was the cam and crank sensor plugs that you cut. Obviously, double check schematics on the plugs and double check connections. Were they soldered? Possibly a bad connection in there? Like I said previously, these are areas of concern when putting in an engine and not gettingt spark.

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#119988, "RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!"
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thanks man . The wires on the coil are not reversed but i will double check the conections on the sensors

  

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nyBoosted420aFeb-10-07 08:50 AM
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#119989, "RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!"
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ok i check my sensors the conections are fine i put difrence asd relays and still nothin im gonna order a ecu and see what heppens . i still have no spark so if anybody have any ideas let me know .

  

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nyBoosted420aFeb-19-07 08:40 AM
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#119990, "RE: '98 motor into '96, have spark and fuel but no vroom vroom!"
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camon guys i need help really bad .today i checked volts on the sensors cam and crank and they both have 4.9v nad 8.9v i swiched the rellays asd and the one for the pump and im still gettin no spark.know im startin to think my computer shit the bed but the think is everything was workin before i did the swap so if anybody have any ideas let me know .. thanks

  

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