I'm looking at going with the 2.4 but i was wondering if it would be possible to bore it out and get everything like the 2.2 from fty. I mean would it be possible to have around a 2.6 liter. Money isn't that big of an issue and either is getting another transmission to handle all the power and everything. If im going to upgrade my engine i might as well get the best possible engine i can get into my ride. I'm looking for the BEST internals and everything possible to make this whole thing work. I'm planning on getting the TEC3 for engine management so i really don't need to worry about anything electronically not working Sorry if this seems like a noob question but im still learning about the whole engine internals and how i can make improvments.

srt-4 internals will handle whatever you want. unless you're moving toward 500hp+ then the srt internals should do just fine.

p.s- .060 overbore 2.4L = 2.5L, just food for thought
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as needles of ice
are the ill winds' talons
the coldest of shadows
they seep unto the bone

silent souls leave .308 holes

Originally posted by turbo8u
srt-4 internals will handle whatever you want. unless you're moving toward 500hp+ then the srt internals should do just fine. p.s- .060 overbore 2.4L = 2.5L, just food for thought _________ 96 talon esi-t san clemente, ca as needles of ice are the ill winds' talons the coldest of shadows they seep unto the bone silent souls leave .308 holes

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NO overbore for srt internals so far at least...

So if you do overbore you need aftermarket pistons

advantages of srt-4 internals...super cheap to come by..

Disadvantage..you need a cleaner low milage block to work with..and you have about a 500 whp limit (ok 500 whp is a lot but ...its there)

I dont think this is too advanced though..should be in the General forum IMHO might be wrong though

vote for your choice of body style for Bluie!! http://www.cardomain.com/id/bluemooneclipse

I really don't want anything less then the best for my car. So hopefully i reach that 500hp range. My car is not a daily driver and im only planning on street/track racing. But money isn't that big of an issue right now to me. I have other cars to drive and i can't even legally drive until july so my eclipse has just been in my garage for the past 9 months. I'm just finishing putting on my custom turbo kit and now just need that 2.4 or i guess 2.5

So what i was wondering is what pistons and rods would be the best to use? Also what compression should i use?

well ok heres some of my input, this is what im doing anyway....550whp is the goal. i was thinking .060 but its not really worth it. 1 psi would more than make up for it. and if you think about the cost of some custom .060 overbore cp's or something? NOT cheap i know you know. so im just goin standard or even .020 overbore JE's or CP's, and then with this part-time job at carillo i'll get a nice ass cryo on them NOT the stock srt pistons, but yea...the stock srt rods. stock srt-4 upper ring lands are only 4mm, as opposed to most forged 8mm. i dunno about if they'd be able to handle 550-600hp, and be reliable... about the srt rods though..forged, cracked cap. some people dont seem to like the cracked cap, but who cares...they work right? i mean, they are one forged peice...and the jagged fault makes for a perfect tight seal to stay perfectly connected, and the SRT rod bolts were even specifically designed to be thicker, and stronger. so the stock srt-4 rods are awesome, imo. for some cracked cap forged stockers, they do the job. they'll take it like a bitch. re-bush the rods, good to go. also, been working out some rod ratio crap to bring it to 1.58 instead of 1.5 = higher redline capable. but that also means custom rods, and pistons. just tryin to kill that ghey ramp the stock srt pistons have, and bring it to the top of the deck and keep it at TDC for a little longer. but its not really worth it, just other food for thought. i wonder if somewent went FULL RACE friggin 2.4, i mean...fully built head, valvetrain, agg cams, huge turbo, 2.4-2.5L whatever, how much actual POWER it could make, 800? damn, thatd be sick lol.

anyway yea, cliff notes:

im going CP pistons on stock srt-4 rods, 550whp.
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca


as needles of ice
are the ill winds' talons
the coldest of shadows
they seep unto the bone

silent souls leave .308 holes

Originally posted by turbo8u
well ok heres some of my input, this is what im doing anyway....550whp is the goal. i was thinking .060 but its not really worth it. 1 psi would more than make up for it. and if you think about the cost of some custom .060 overbore cp's or something? NOT cheap i know you know...

Originally posted by turbo8u so im just goin standard or even .020 overbore JE's or CP's, and then with this part-time job at carillo i'll get a nice ass cryo on them NOT the stock srt pistons, but yea...the stock srt rods...

Originally posted by turbo8u...i wonder if somewent went FULL RACE friggin 2.4, i mean...fully built head, valvetrain, agg cams, huge turbo, 2.4-2.5L whatever, how much actual POWER it could make, 800? damn, thatd be sick ...

*Skrilla
"Honest officer, I thought you were trying to race me"
Talon: 1st 2.4L
'97 Prelude
'04 350Z

Originally posted by etx
Good luck man! Project 'STFU Brian your talon is dead meat' should be on it's feet soon!

I cleaned up some stuff here that should've been taken off forum. You guys want to argue don't gum up the thread.

-"Easy Mac"
05 Mazda RX-8 (RR8 #88)
99 Eclipse RS 398whp & 372lb-ft

Gotta admit,

the owned pics were hilarious, lol

It's all good, but damn the whole thread was deleted

*Skrilla
"Honest officer, I thought you were trying to race me"
Talon: 1st 2.4L
'97 Prelude
'04 350Z

Originally posted by etx
Good luck man! Project 'STFU Brian your talon is dead meat' should be on it's feet soon!

true no overbore on stock SRT4 internals, look for aftermarket for that

*Skrilla
"Honest officer, I thought you were trying to race me"
Talon: 1st 2.4L
'97 Prelude
'04 350Z

Originally posted by etx
Good luck man! Project 'STFU Brian your talon is dead meat' should be on it's feet soon!

i think im going to get the .60 over cp pistons and I really don't want stock srt-4 rods. I would much rather have aftermarket rods. What rod choices are there.

well, i don't really have a power goal. I'm planning on spending about 10 grand on engine and engine management if that means anything. If i need more cash that won't be a problem. Right now i just finished a t3/t4 custom turbo kit. But i cannot even drive my car until mid july at the earliest. I was just planning on getting everything i need for this and putting everything in in july and tuning and everything. This is only going to be a weekend car and i am not going to daily drive it. I just have to be able to drive it on the street for street races and to the track.

Also by the cp pistons being expensive how much do you think they'll run?

well im looking to run around 10 flat . I would love to be the fastest 2gnt. I'm not sure what hp range i'll be, i just don't want to be set at something like 700hp and not be anywhere close. i'm planning on running a tec3 for engine and fuel management. Also 200 shot of nitrous. I already have a sfmu and a fat intercooler but am thinking about getting a water to air intercooler as well. I'm still looking into what tranny to use and possibly all wheel drive next year.

The only reason I say 10K is b/c i was thinking about getting a 350Z but i figured that spending all this cash on my eclipse would be better . I'm definately going to go .60 over cp pistons and im considering the srt-4 rods.

Well the all-wheel drive just seems like a fun winter project. I thought someone on here did an all-wheel drive avenger so i figure that an all wheel 2gnt would be easier. A lot of parts i could get off the gsx and fabricate them.

Yeah i know 10 flat is going to be hard to get but hahn got 10.86 on the 2.0 so i might be able to make it. i figured by the end of the summer i should be making somewhere in the 10's.

I'm going to find out how much those custom cp's are going to cost sometime today.

*Skrilla
"Honest officer, I thought you were trying to race me"
Talon: 1st 2.4L
'97 Prelude
'04 350Z

Originally posted by etx
Good luck man! Project 'STFU Brian your talon is dead meat' should be on it's feet soon!

well about the gsx parts i was thinking about using the axels and everything. I don't think it's going to happen but i might try it out.

Somewhere south of 700??? so you think it'll be under 700? i saw that the 2.4 je pistons from howell are 500 so i figured that the custom cp's would be around $1000. This project's not going to cost me as much as i thought. It seems that the engine with a built head would cost around $4500, what do you think?

*Skrilla
"Honest officer, I thought you were trying to race me"
Talon: 1st 2.4L
'97 Prelude
'04 350Z

Originally posted by etx
Good luck man! Project 'STFU Brian your talon is dead meat' should be on it's feet soon!

this is funny and edumacational

Steve-o
Top secret.

Originally posted by FlyinEsi
I guess I'll just have to live with a 500+ hp AWD 4-banger.

so what compression should i get. I was thinking about 8.6 but im not too sure. I plan to run high boost and want to be able to tune this beast fairly easily.

im actually leaning toward fairly high comp, 9.X:1, maybe even somewhere in the 10's but im not sure. high comp turbo is just sick though. at lower boost you'll make more power. with all the shit im spraying in there detonation and sub-par timing advance at wot wont worry me at all.

i'll figure that out when i go to buy my cp's

cryo coating them too already talked to the guy about it. its like spacecraft coating and it lasts forever dank. high boost.
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca


as needles of ice
are the ill winds' talons
the coldest of shadows
they seep unto the bone

silent souls leave .308 holes

I gotta 2.4 in the works; hopefully it should be done in a month. still need piping, bigger injectors, exhaust, boost controller and order some axles.
T3 60-1
Tubular manifold
Sheet metal intake manifold
Je / Crower
crane 2.4 cam gears / 0018 cams
ported head
vortech sfmu
tial 38mm wg
8:8:1 cp
Quaife

je pistons / crower rods

no they were custom ordered. i have another block (PT) i was thinking of sending to VT , but now im contemplating on just selling it.