I wasn't sure where to post this question so I put it in the performance section also. Bear with me, I'm pretty new around here. I have a used GST muffler and am debating whether or not to put it on. Do they cause you to loose low end toruqe? I would like to keep what low end torque I have. And do you notice any difference in performance, low end or high end? And also how does it sound? I don't want my car to sound like a pissed off bumble bee. thanks.

"I have a used GST muffler and am debating
>whether or not to put it on. Do they cause you to loose low
>end toruqe?"

No loss in low-end torque.

"I would like to keep what low end torque I have.
>And do you notice any difference in performance, low end or
>high end?"

You notice a slight high end gain. With the better sound it adds, it feels like even more power has been added throughout the RPM band.

"And also how does it sound? "

It's far from bumble-bee sounding. It definitely sounds a little meaner and deeper. Definitely a slight growl is obtained. It's just a terrific sound. You definitely will be pleased. It's not a big sound change from stock, but an addition of a low grumble will have been added.

You really never have to worry about our 2GNT's sounding like a bumble bee. It may get really loud, droney and raspy depending on other random mufflers, but as far as a whiney honduh-like bumble-bee...I don't think so.

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Jason ESi-T

04' BMW 325Ci
91' Nissan 240SX
98' Eagle Talon ESi (sold)

Thanks for the reply. I just don't want it to sound like those damn hondas that are all over, i hate those things. My next problem is getting the stock muffler off. the bolts are so rusted there isn't anywhere for a wrench to fit. Any ideas? (guess i should have thought of this before i put 90000 miles on the car)

Go to satan and buy three new bolts for the flange and a new gasket. Should only cost like $12. To get my old muffler off at 90,000 miles, I used a dremel tool to cut away the rust that was binding the bolt to the flange. Then a little liquid wrench and a lot of strength to twist those old bolts off.

1997 Eclipse RS
Minden Silver Pearl



Performance:
GS-T Muffler
AEM CAI
NGK BKR6E-11
Magnecor KV85
B&M Short Shifter

Appearance:
GS-X Wheels
Crappy PIAA Fogs
Looking for V-Tech Covers

I only had 30,000 when I put on my exhaust and I took it to a muffler shop and they loosted the bolts to the rear section for me and I just drove home and finished it. Most shops are nice like that.

If you want a more thurough explanation of how it sounds you can check out the main MODS page on www.2gnt.com and search for the GS-T exhaust.

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98 ESi
95 GS

i wouldnt go cuttin shit off if i were you. just put some wd40 or some liquid wrench on there and use a breaker bar. it will eventually come off. the sound is pretty sweet, i got it cause of the dual tip look and the fact that i cant stand daily drving a car with aftermarket exhaust--too loud for me!

Well it turns out that the deal I had for the muffler fell through. The idiot at the shop thought I was talking about another car. So now I need to find one, only every shop around here refuses to sell me a muffler. Anyone have any idea where I can get one cheep?

www.dsmtrader.com

www.thepartstrader.com

Thanks, found one and already making arangements with the guy. How much do you think it would cost to ship the thing? The guy lives about 100-150 miles away from me. He wants $60 for it, but he might come down a little, is that a good buy?

i have a gst muffler too. i just want 40 bucks for it plus u pay shipping... email me if u want it


96RS ~ full 99GS Special Edit. body conversion, aem cai, greddy header, greddy sp exhaust, afx pulley, B&M SS, magecores & NGKs, S-AFC, A/F and Volt guages, Sparco Torino Seat, illuminas, prokits, ingalls camber, gunmetal GS rims, ST Sways, STBs, lower rear tie bar, Sony Xplode head, Xplode 10 disk, Boston Components, 2 Kenwood amps, 12" MTX sub, a shit load more.


97GSX ~ 18psi~ Ported/Clipped 10 degrees Frank 2 w/47trim, Ported Exh. housing, Tial 40mm External Wastegate with discharge tube, Ported O2 housing, 3" downpipe, 3" Straight Pipe, Apex N1, fake cat, K&N FIPK, Greddy IC Piping, Type S bov, S-AFC, Profec B, Greddy TT, Slimline Fan, RRE Catch Can, Greddy Big FMIC, ND 660s, Walboro 190lph, ACT 2600 w/street disk, clutch SS line, lighten flywheel, removed cruise control line, Greddy EGT, Coolant, Boost Gauges, motor mount inserts, Magnecor & plugs, greddy oil cap, greddy radiator cap, and free mods. To all the haters _|_ tia

The Original 2GNT []D[][]Y[][]D


96 RS


97 GSX

It doesn't matter to me where it comes from especially if it is from someone in this club. I know most in here are trustworthy. I just need to know how much it will cost for shipping so I can get the funds aranged. How much does the thing weigh?

If you're the buyer in Indiana who wants to buy the GS-T muffler from my brother, then I know he won't come down in price because I told him not to. If someone wants to sell you one for cheaper, that's cool. But personally, I think that muffler is worth it, has enough demand, and is popular enough for a $60 price tag.

The muffler has only has 35k miles on it and it's very shiney. Moreover, you can be assured that you're getting it from someone trustworthy, b/c I know it'll be me who's the one who will take the muffler off of his car and pack it. Again his email is xsfraider@hotmail.com (I think).

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Jason ESi-T

04' BMW 325Ci
91' Nissan 240SX
98' Eagle Talon ESi (sold)

If the muffler includes the piping up to the flange, then it is definitely worth 60 bucks. If you were in socal, Road Race sells their extras for 20 bucks, but the last one was just sold a week ago, so no more for now...

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2004 WRX - WR Blue Pearl
1997 Eclipse GS - Royal Sapphire Pearl

I had the GST muffler on my car b4 i sold it to mystic. I loved the sound of it personally, but it just wasnt loud enough for me. It gave a lil more growl down low, but still didnt turn heads until after 3-4000rpms. It just wasnt loud enough for me, now I have 2.5" pacesetter piping and an OBX muffler and love it! I have to use the silencer though cuz without it the sound is WAY too loud. Thats OK though cuz once I go turbo it will quiet it down some.

Toney
'97 RS 5 Speed (totaled)
15.4606@88.42 Mph
96 Toyota Celica GT
88 Toyota Supra NA-T (w/ sports package)
Got Boost?? Hell yeah I-6 turbo powah baby!

Right, Marcus. They aren't always necessarily easy to come by and since this one is still on the car, you bet it still has the flange. It's gonna be expensive enough to ship it!
(~$20 or so I imagine)

And Dino....that's my lil' altezza having brother, who wants a body kit. (pssssshhht)

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Jason ESi-T

04' BMW 325Ci
91' Nissan 240SX
98' Eagle Talon ESi (sold)

Yup, I am the person you want to buy the GST muffler from. Personally, its sounds average in all ratings. Its not weak nor is it very loud. It just gives a little more of grumble sound. As for the performance it helps me out in the low end as well as the high end.

Well.. Hello there, Mr. the-other-Boltz.

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'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



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do to the fact that CHP are assholes and the whole justice system is fucked up... i now have the gst muffler on.. ihave it on greddy pipping so the sound is a little louder than it would be on stock piping.. i like the look, the sound (got tired of the loud greddy back there) and the fact that it looks stock and the pigs will leave me alone now (at least due to the muffler)

^^what once was^^


^^what is now.. and permanently^^

my suggestion, if it is really badly rusted on take it to a muffler shop. i tried everything to get mine off, but after 110,000 miles of of blowing fumes, those bolts weren't coming off!
when i took it down to the muffler shop, they put it on a lift, and tried everything from the air gun, to the breaker bar. and loosening agents. finally they decided to torch it off, they had to cut though that crap pretty good. it ended up costing me 40 bucks, for them to cut it off, new bolts, new gasket, and put the gst muffler on.

as for sound, hell yeah it sounds good. most people cant believe i still have a mitsubishi muffler. off course i gutted my cat and put in a staight pipe instead of a resonater. it sounds good though with just the gst muffler. but much better with the cat gutted and res. replaced.



mods:
full exhause
cai
sparkplugs
platnum plus window tint
all black interior
altezas

future mods(in no particular order):
engine swap
lower it
wheels
seats
exhaust
piant job
turbo wing
hood
body kit
neons all around
head light housing
new altezas
new stereo equipment
and more that will be kept secret for now