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eclipse982nrRST	Oct-09-08 08:21 AM
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#110205, "The build."

Word is out and a lot of people know, so, here it is. The secret is a 2.2L stroker. Yes, thats what I have been up to. So, here are a few pics from today's work. Did not get very much done.

Few pics of the block. 95' block bored 40 over and honed, was completely degreased and checked for cracks and everything. The rotating assembly was balanced as well. Crank is the Callies custom stroker crank. Eagle Rods, JE 8.8:1 pistons and total seal rings.

So, next was to start assembling this hog. Got the lower set of bearings in, went to put the top in and noticed the notch was on the wrong side! I never knew that the 95 bedplates were nocthed differently. So, besides waiting another week for another set of bearings to use, why not just notch the bedplate yourself? I am supposed to be a professional right? lol. So, yes, I notched it myself.

Bearings in.

Went ahead and plastigaged everything to make sure all my clearences were okay.

Then went ahead and put the crank in, put my gasket sealer around the block and this time, i did not forget the ORING!!!!

I will get some more pics tomorrow of the bedplate bolted up. I also started to try and get the pistons in the walls, but I am having some issues. The oil rings slide right in but as soon as I get to the 2nd compression ring, it gets VERY tight. I did not like it, so I called it a day. I go back to work tomorrow, so we will see if I can squeeze them in...

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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RE: The build., SilvrEclips, Oct-09-08 09:20 AM, #3

RE: The build., 420agreenvilleSC, Oct-09-08 09:30 AM, #4

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RE: The build., eclipse982nrRST, Oct-09-08 11:10 AM, #7

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RE: The build., barza21, Oct-09-08 01:17 PM, #9

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RE: The build., 96TurboGS, Oct-09-08 06:32 PM, #11

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RE: The build., eclipse982nrRST, Oct-12-08 06:14 AM, #13

RE: The build., adammethner2005, Oct-13-08 11:56 AM, #14

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Motor is in !!!, eclipse982nrRST, Oct-17-08 08:43 AM, #22

RE: Motor is in !!!, SilvrEclips, Oct-17-08 09:01 AM, #23

RE: Motor is in !!!, eclipse982nrRST, Oct-17-08 09:14 AM, #24

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Half way done w/ new pics, eclipse982nrRST, Nov-04-08 01:29 PM, #26

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bullettdsm	Oct-09-08 08:45 AM
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#110206, "RE: The build."
In response to Reply # 0

IMO, get rid of the total seal rings.

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

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djtrickee	Oct-09-08 09:07 AM
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#110208, "RE: The build."
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What the shit. All this time and money and rubbish talk and you wimped out and only are building a 2.2. lol. Ghey.

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SilvrEclips	Oct-09-08 09:20 AM
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#110209, "RE: The build."
In response to Reply # 2

Looks good man, what happens if you forget to put the oring in? I dont remember if I put mine in or not.

98 Eclipse GS Turbo
Built motor - MS2 - Holset hy35 - Zoom Stg 4 Clutch - 57.5mm TB - ARP Headstuds - Turbonetics wastegate - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Cobra calipers w/ 13" Rotors - Oil Cooler - DevilsOwn meth injection

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420agreenvilleSC	Oct-09-08 09:30 AM
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#110210, "RE: The build."
In response to Reply # 3

very impressive mike. i really like it. yea i was gonna put my bedplate on and almost forgot the oring. lol. caught it in time. curious why you chose TS rings and not je's? your choice i know. anyway, keep the progress coming. awesome so far. how much did you spend for the crank??

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eclipse982nrRST	Oct-09-08 10:21 AM
Member since Mar 16th 2004 6314 posts,

#110211, "RE: The build."
In response to Reply # 4
Oct-09-08 10:23 AM by eclipse982nrRST

I do not have a problem with using TS.
I ran them on the 2.0 for 2 years with no problems. Swapped to JE's when I had the head off once and noticed no difference at all. Only problem I see with people having issues with TS's is because they arent installed correctly.

EDIT: Chris, what are you talking about me whimping out? Maybe because you guys thought i was building a 2.4 all along and I wasnt?

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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teklein	Oct-09-08 10:55 AM
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#110212, "RE: The build."
In response to Reply # 5

Whats the shiny thing bolted to it?

Great job btw emoji

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eclipse982nrRST	Oct-09-08 11:10 AM
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#110213, "RE: The build."
In response to Reply # 6

Originally posted by teklein
Whats the shiny thing bolted to it? Great job btw emoji

Oh yeah, forgot to mention it. That is an old school Chrysler voltage regulator. I need it for the alternator since I will no longer be using the stock ECU.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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foggy45	Oct-09-08 11:44 AM
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#110214, "RE: The build."
In response to Reply # 7

Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST
So, besides waiting another week for another set of bearings to use, why not just notch the bedplate yourself? I am supposed to be a professional right? lol. So, yes, I notched it myself.

don't worry man, lots of people with 96+ bedplates notch them themselves so they have the ability to run a 360* grove set of main bearings.

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barza21	Oct-09-08 01:17 PM
Member since Oct 09th 2006 313 posts,

#110215, "RE: The build."
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good memories are coming back! Hope you actually achieve your 400whp dude, you dont want a little 2.0L beating you, do you ? emoji

good luck with the build, keep us updated.

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1slw97	Oct-09-08 03:18 PM
Member since Aug 13th 2008 129 posts,

#110220, "RE: The build."
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Looking good!!

97 Eclipse GS, 2.2 stroker,Gt35R,MSNS,E85 @20psi. 450hp 370tq..With issues

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96TurboGS	Oct-09-08 06:32 PM
Member since Dec 01st 2007 125 posts,

#110221, "RE: The build."
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On your way to 400 fucking hp. Just by curiosity what did the last set up make (hp wise)?

-Rafiel

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Flipboi89	Oct-10-08 09:30 AM
Member since Oct 07th 2007 392 posts,

#110224, "RE: The build."
In response to Reply # 11

awww the memories lol. hope this build is gonna last a longer time keep us updated.

Car Status: P0140 o2 circuit number bank 1 sensor 2 Cel. Ill fix it tomorow lol.

Estimated mileage on engine: 15,xxx

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eclipse982nrRST	Oct-12-08 06:14 AM
Member since Mar 16th 2004 6314 posts,

#110238, "RE: The build."
In response to Reply # 12

Well, Saturday was a good day. No pics because I forgot my camera.

But, I got the following done.

Oil pump and pickup installed.
Water pump and outlet pipe installed.
Drilled and tapped oil pan for -10AN return and put pan on.
Got the head on and torqued the ARP head studs to 92ft lbs.
New lifters and rocker arms in, and got the cams in, but havent torqued the caps yet.

Tomorrow I should have the rest of the motor built. I should be able to get the cams torqued and gears put on, get the timing done and throw the intake and TB on it.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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adammethner2005	Oct-13-08 11:56 AM
Member since Jul 13th 2008 1 posts,

#110254, "RE: The build."
In response to Reply # 13

Glad to see everything is coming together nicely. I'm finally starting to get that motor put together. Nice job remembering the o-ring this time emoji

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talonesiracing	Oct-13-08 05:01 PM
Member since Jul 12th 2007 97 posts,

#110257, "RE: The build."
In response to Reply # 14

you did grind the bedplate for clearance issues right??

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eclipse982nrRST	Oct-16-08 03:39 AM
Member since Mar 16th 2004 6314 posts,

#110283, "RE: The build."
In response to Reply # 15

Originally posted by talonesiracing
you did grind the bedplate for clearance issues right??

You talking about where the rod cap bolt came to about .005" close to the bedplate I am guessing?

I actually didnt grind the bedplate, I just went ahead and ground down the one rod cap bolt on each rod, slotted it nicely and worked out perfect.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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bullettdsm	Oct-16-08 08:56 AM
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#110286, "RE: The build."
In response to Reply # 16

Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST

Originally posted by talonesiracing you did grind the bedplate for clearance issues right??

You talking about where the rod cap bolt came to about .005" close to the bedplate I am guessing? I actually didnt grind the bedplate, I just went ahead and ground down the one rod cap bolt on each rod, slotted it nicely and worked out perfect.

FWIW next time grind the non moving part. No balance situation.

MB

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96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

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stracer107	Oct-16-08 02:21 PM
Member since Dec 25th 2007 49 posts,

#110290, "RE: The build."
In response to Reply # 17

how are you doing your ecu? you said your not using the stock one.

97 RS blown engine

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97AllMtr	Oct-13-08 07:16 PM
Member since Jul 20th 2007 175 posts,

#110260, "RE: The build."
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Originally posted by adammethner2005
Glad to see everything is coming together nicely. I'm finally starting to get that motor put together. Nice job remembering the o-ring this time emoji

What O-ring? emoji

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thormx353	Oct-16-08 02:22 AM
Member since Apr 17th 2008 62 posts,

#110282, "RE: The build."
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nice job man, im doing a build myself. I'm a little anxious to get it done haha

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teklein	Oct-16-08 05:41 AM
Member since Nov 04th 2007 1699 posts,

#110285, "RE: The build."
In response to Reply # 20

Anymore pics?

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eclipse982nrRST	Oct-17-08 08:43 AM
Member since Mar 16th 2004 6314 posts,

#110300, "Motor is in !!!"
In response to Reply # 21

Well, about 30 minutes, I bolted the motor back into the car. Here are a few pics I took. Unfortunately I didnt have my camera at the shop when I finished building the engine itself.

Anyway, here she is.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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SilvrEclips	Oct-17-08 09:01 AM
Member since Nov 27th 2007 534 posts,

#110301, "RE: Motor is in !!!"
In response to Reply # 22

Looks sweet man.. when is the rest of the car going to be finished?

98 Eclipse GS Turbo
Built motor - MS2 - Holset hy35 - Zoom Stg 4 Clutch - 57.5mm TB - ARP Headstuds - Turbonetics wastegate - 3" Turbo back - FMIC - Greddy RZ BOV - Walbro 255 - 650cc Injectors - Fidanza Flywheel - Cobra calipers w/ 13" Rotors - Oil Cooler - DevilsOwn meth injection

1981 Chevy Scottsdale
1987 Nissan 300zx - Chump Car
2001 BMW 325i

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eclipse982nrRST	Oct-17-08 09:14 AM
Member since Mar 16th 2004 6314 posts,

#110302, "RE: Motor is in !!!"
In response to Reply # 23

Originally posted by SilvrEclips
Looks sweet man.. when is the rest of the car going to be finished?

Hopefully end of November.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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420agreenvilleSC	Oct-17-08 09:38 AM
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#110303, "RE: Motor is in !!!"
In response to Reply # 24

sick man. just sick. keep it up

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eclipse982nrRST	Nov-04-08 01:29 PM
Member since Mar 16th 2004 6314 posts,

#110496, "Half way done w/ new pics"
In response to Reply # 25

I am about half way done with this project...here are some new pics from previous weeks progress.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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Murfsmaster	Nov-04-08 02:24 PM
Member since Mar 22nd 2005 175 posts,

#110497, "RE: Half way done w/ new pics"
In response to Reply # 26

That looks amazing mike. I wish my engine bay was half as nice as that. Keep it up

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eclipse RS-T	Nov-04-08 07:24 PM
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#110499, "RE: Half way done w/ new pics"
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Nov-04-08 07:25 PM by eclipse RS-T

Looks badass! Great work

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bullettdsm	Nov-04-08 10:20 PM
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#110500, "RE: Half way done w/ new pics"
In response to Reply # 28

Lots of bling-ass clean stuff (stuff I know nothing about, lol). Looks great.

Never caught what TB you are using. Mustang?

When you get done with this, you may want to switch out the intake for an AMM. I switched out the OBX (yeah, I know not the same thing. But same size) on the turbo and the difference was palpable. better response and quicker spool (haven't got it on the dyno yet).

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

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eclipse982nrRST	Nov-04-08 11:46 PM
Member since Mar 16th 2004 6314 posts,

#110502, "RE: Half way done w/ new pics"
In response to Reply # 29

Originally posted by bullettdsm
Lots of bling-ass clean stuff (stuff I know nothing about, lol). Looks great. Never caught what TB you are using. Mustang? When you get done with this, you may want to switch out the intake for an AMM. I switched out the OBX (yeah, I know not the same thing. But same size) on the turbo and the difference was palpable. better response and quicker spool (haven't got it on the dyno yet).

I was already talking with AMM from the beginning of this project, thats why I initially sold my old Venom manifold to Paul.

However, his ideas and design are badass, but I unfortunately do not like how the manifold bolts up. I dont like how its down so low and you can see the entire firewall, lol.

Not very much bling bling stuff, just a nice fresh painted engine bay and the i/M and v/c are glossy!

Thanks for the comments though guys.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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turbo8u	Nov-05-08 12:46 AM
Member since Jun 15th 2003 10552 posts,

#110503, "RE: Half way done w/ new pics"
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eclipse982nrRST	Nov-05-08 01:14 AM
Member since Mar 16th 2004 6314 posts,

#110506, "RE: Half way done w/ new pics"
In response to Reply # 31

Originally posted by turbo8u

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Yeah, now I am living on peanut butter/jelly and hot dogs for lunch every day!!!!

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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Flipboi89	Nov-05-08 02:53 AM
Member since Oct 07th 2007 392 posts,

#110507, "RE: Half way done w/ new pics"
In response to Reply # 32

Hah i was just gonna ask where u get all ur money mike lol.

Car Status: P0140 o2 circuit number bank 1 sensor 2 Cel. Ill fix it tomorow lol.

Estimated mileage on engine: 15,xxx

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