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ezMar-29-08 12:40 PM
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#108230, "Poll question: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!"
Mar-29-08 12:41 PM by ez

          

From left to right, they are 1, 2, 3, 4. Which one is the culprit of my rod knock?




Now for something a little more technical - I understand that bearings are made from soft metals so that if they spin, they will take most of the damage without scarring the crank. That's what I thought that copper color was about - a soft metal for protection. However, the I can feel light grooves with my fingernail over the crank journal. That tells me I can't just polish the journal and put on a new bearing. EDIT: Do you think my other bearings are okay? They are not exactly homogenous in appearance, but perhaps this is normal.

At least I'm getting faster at this...

Poll result (11 votes)
#1 (0 votes)Vote
#2 (5 votes)Vote
#3 (0 votes)Vote
#4 (6 votes)Vote
(0 votes)Vote
(0 votes)Vote

  

  
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RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!, Jungy, Mar-29-08 06:57 PM, #1
RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!, Moderatorbullettdsm, Mar-29-08 10:08 PM, #2
RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!, ez, Mar-30-08 10:51 AM, #3
      RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!, eclipsekaiser, Mar-31-08 03:58 PM, #4
      RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!, Moderatorbullettdsm, Apr-01-08 11:21 AM, #5
           RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!, RoninEclipse2G, Apr-02-08 08:32 AM, #6
                RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!, ez, Apr-02-08 06:08 PM, #7
                     RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!, Moderatorbullettdsm, Apr-02-08 10:41 PM, #8

JungyMar-29-08 06:57 PM
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#108233, "RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!"
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I wouldn't jus simply polish the crank and throw in a new bearing and call it a day. Take the crank to a machine shop and have them take a look at it, it may need to be cut down a size and you'd need oversized bearings.



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ModeratorbullettdsmMar-29-08 10:08 PM
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#108234, "RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!"
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I vote 2 cause I like that number.

Your other bearings look like normal wear etc.

By the "rules" you need to pull the crank and mike it out. If this is a new build, thats what I would do. If it was an engine with 120k and up, I would roll the dice. The bearing is not all smushed out.

But if this is a relatively new build, I would be suspicious of how that happened and I would need to check specs.

That is pretty ugly wear.

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96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
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98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
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ezMar-30-08 10:51 AM
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#108243, "RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!"
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I'm going to have the crank machined. Just ordered the bolts from boltdepot to help remove the crank sprocket.

One thing I haven't figured out, is how to position the engine as I remove the bedplate. I've always worked on an engine stand, but I can't use the engine stand while taking out the crank because it attaches to both the bedplate and the rest of the block. See, I have this crazy desire to NOT separate the block from the head, so putting the engine upside down so it sits on the head gasket area is not in my future. I'm not going to remove the pistons or rods so why take off the head. I don't believe the engine ran long enough with the bearing to bend the rod and cause future issues - I shut it off rather quickly. I have an extra rod for the machine shop if they need to check clearances so that I can get the correct oversized bearings. I just want to mess around with as *few* things as possible with this rebuild.

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eclipsekaiserMar-31-08 03:58 PM
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#108262, "RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!"
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Damn nukka... that bearing looked fawked.

Are you rebuilding this over in SB or LBC? Shoot me an email.

-K-

  
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ModeratorbullettdsmApr-01-08 11:21 AM
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#108265, "RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!"
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Originally posted by ez
One thing I haven't figured out, is how to position the engine as I remove the bedplate. I've always worked on an engine stand, but I can't use the engine stand while taking out the crank because it attaches to both the bedplate and the rest of the block.

I guess I would remove the valve cover and make a quickie wood base that the top of the head would sit on (if I was to do it that way). It would be a little awkward, but it would work.



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96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

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RoninEclipse2GApr-02-08 08:32 AM
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#108274, "RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!"
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Originally posted by bullettdsm
Originally posted by ez One thing I haven't figured out, is how to position the engine as I remove the bedplate. I've always worked on an engine stand, but I can't use the engine stand while taking out the crank because it attaches to both the bedplate and the rest of the block.
I guess I would remove the valve cover and make a quickie wood base that the top of the head would sit on (if I was to do it that way). It would be a little awkward, but it would work.


+1 good idea mark! emoji

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ezApr-02-08 06:08 PM
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#108282, "RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!"
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Thanks guys!

BTW, the poll currently shows that bearings 2 & 4 are in a tie. emoji

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ModeratorbullettdsmApr-02-08 10:41 PM
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#108283, "RE: Vote! One of these bearings is not like the other!"
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Originally posted by ez
the poll currently shows that bearings 2 & 4 are in a tie. emoji

See? People like the number 2 emoji

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

  
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