Ok, through a bit of collaboration between myself and quicksilver99 (Mark Peachy), we now have a functional, correctly dimensioned LTH.





The install was actually pretty easy. I did have to take my radiator out to get it to fit in (kinda felt like a honda guy at that point, lol). But once that was out, she fit right in and I had plenty of room to put the radiator back in (more than with the e-bay header).

Here's a comparison pic between the e-bay header and Mark's LTH (don't mind the heat wrap. I was in the process);





Got a little more size and a little bigger pipe. Most importantly, to me, notice the smooth angles instead of the hard e-bay agles. Very important to me.

Mark has said that he can make these according to your specs, so if anyone is interested, feel free to contact him.

Oh BTW, this header helped make 203.8whp NA.

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

I'm gonna cry

such a nice piece of workmanship !

Alain

one of the 2.4 true pionners

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Daily #2: '99 EVG ebike- STOLEN by PEDRO

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

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95 Eclipse GS - parts car
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Finally a header worth buying!!!!

Congratulations great job
I was in the market for some headers and when i saw this my jaw dropped....
let me know about pricing..... thnx
I wouldn't mind having some of these on.

I'm interested... I like the quality of the workmanship.

Do you know what the difference was using that new header versus, well, anything else? Did you happen to do any dyno comparisons or see a difference at the track?

Not trying to be difficult as you know, just wanted to see if you got some or any trials on it.

I have orders from the wife to tune the car before buying the next mod (logical, have to give her that) but I'd put that header on the short list of things to buy next, and try at the track

"Tutto fa brodo."

Todd Scungio
98 RS
15.173 @ 90.70 MPH

And also a 2011 Ralliart

Originally posted by VX100
I have orders from the wife to tune the car before buying the next mod (logical, have to give her that) but I'd put that header on the short list of things to buy next, and try at the track

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

my guest , based on my experience with several neon dohc with long tube headers, it looks like you have at least around 30 inch of throat
and this should be good for 8-10 WHp on a mildly modified 2.0L engine

Alain

one of the 2.4 true pionners

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

your engine is not a typical reference

we did a few dyno run on neons dohc with some cams like crane 12 and 16 homemade head porting, udp. 55mm tb and box intake manifold

that's what we saw, 8 to 10 hp , with lth from howell

Alain

one of the 2.4 true pionners

my 2 cents here... you would most probably be able to gain another couple ponies outta this type of setup if you utilized a smoother merge collector at the point where all 4 tubes intersect. it looks as if, the way u have it now, would create some form of restriction due to the sharp convergence during higher rpm's. check out "spdexhaust.com"... they have all sorts of collectors that you can check out - i worked there previously. there is power to be gained from a properly designed collector.

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

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Just out of curiousity, what if someone wanted one for a 2.4?

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

So can this header be used just as any other header?

Also, do we contact him for pricing?

EDIT: whats the inlet size?

eX-Drivers


"Eclipse tuners are a strange sort. They don't like talking about wings or color-matching side skirts and interiors. Eclipse tuners are performance-obsessed sleeper fanatics who dream only about downpipes, exhuast gases, and wastegates. Their cars aren't pretty, but have the ability to spank you silly on the highway. In other words, Eclipse tuners write checks their cars can cash. Mention the word "chrome" and they might drop a boot to your skull" -SuperStreet

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Price..I'm about to redo my exhaust and I'm very interested.

I was just asked by my dad "so, what are you going to put on the car next?"

And, I can tell you, I'd like to look into this header some more. Please keep us updated.

"Tutto fa brodo."

Todd Scungio
98 RS
15.173 @ 90.70 MPH

And also a 2011 Ralliart

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

ok boys and gals..... here's the rundown:


Those bends where done on a rotary-draw bender because that one is mild steel and is very forgiving, 7 inch centerline radius, and zero distortion. I also have a small mandrel bender ( thats a moody S.O.B.) and can hydro-form light gauge sheet metal to any shape or form. My die sets are limited, I have a few common sizes, but they cost anywhere from $500 to $1800 dollars a set depending on the size, we're expanding as our shop grows but it takes time. I'll keep everybody posted as I put together all the final details of the header and producing it. Just waiting on qoutes for lazer-cutting. As far as bending tube I only have common sizes used for headers and manifolds as thats generally our specialty, I/C piping is comming when we can afford the setup. The collector is made in house, and we have many different designs, once I have an idea of what to use for a flex section I'll prob revise that one to a longer slope, but there still needs to be complete seperation of the exhaust pulses.

I'll keep everybody up to date on the progress and try to answer any more questions as they come up. But I also ask for a little patience when waiting for responses, I work a full time job at 55+ hours a week to keep my fab shop going till its self supporting and I don't get online as much as I used to. But I will answer everything I can.

Creative thinking? Ingenuity? Hell, It's just an obsession!



99 Eclipse GS turbo: MSpowered, everything custom built, 223.8 HP-199.8 TQ @8psi through auto-tranny. The first time around...

another idea is to sand bend those tubes

That header looks really nice, one question is how much lower is it than the crossmember right there? Some guys are low as shit, that looks like it would drag hard on speedbumps and put a beating on the head if it hit. It wouldnt clear on my car for daily driving, no way...

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

How would the clearance be with a 2" drop? I have about 4" of clearance under the front bumper.

My Blog

I have 3" of clearance at my downpipe...it sucks sometimes

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

the lower pair of runners only sits about 1.5 inchs lower than the lowest point of the oil pan. I'll try to get some pics up of it on a motor by fri night.

Creative thinking? Ingenuity? Hell, It's just an obsession!



99 Eclipse GS turbo: MSpowered, everything custom built, 223.8 HP-199.8 TQ @8psi through auto-tranny. The first time around...

Cool. I'm just curious.

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here's some pics of the LTH bolted to a spare motor in my garage


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Creative thinking? Ingenuity? Hell, It's just an obsession!



99 Eclipse GS turbo: MSpowered, everything custom built, 223.8 HP-199.8 TQ @8psi through auto-tranny. The first time around...

Hi there,

I'm interested in one header like that. Who I have to talk with so he can make me one like that but in a different way, like a 4-2-1 because I heard it's the best for the street. It's just my thought, if I'm wrong, well, show the correct way. Thanks for the help.

Contact quicksilver99 and give him your parameters. He has been able to help me on various designs.

MB

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

Thanks, I already contacted him and gave me some info. It's just wait for him. Keep going with your car, you'll be soon in the 12's.

Originally posted by quicksilver99
here's some pics of the LTH bolted to a spare motor in my garage <a href="http://www.ringo.com/photos/photo.html?photoId=256779389"><img src="" border="0"/></a> <a href="http://www.ringo.com/photos/photo.html?photoId=256779545"><img src="" border="0"/></a> <a href="http://www.ringo.com/photos/photo.html?photoId=256779892"><img src="" border="0"/></a> <a href="http://www.ringo.com/photos/photo.html?photoId=256779417"><img src="" border="0"/></a> <a href="http://www.ringo.com/photos/photo.html?photoId=256779899"><img src="" border="0"/></a> <a href="http://www.ringo.com/photos/photo.html?photoId=256780196"><img src="" border="0"/></a> <a href="http://www.ringo.com/photos/photo.html?photoId=256780108"><img src="" border="0"/></a>

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L