OK, I gotta type this quick because the wife decided that the week before the SO would be a good time to go to the beach on vacation


Yup, pretty much the same numbers as the 10.9 with Crower 2's AND still not knock limited. What does that tell us? You guessed it, I hit a brick wall on flow. Gotta get a different intake to start with and then work from there. I could try to work the old intake more, but I never really felt it was a great design. Interesting in that I now believe that I left some power on table with the 10.9 set-up.

So for the Shoot Out, I will basically have the same power as before. I am trying to get an OBX on in time, but with the VACATION (thanks honey), I don't know if I will find time. I do have one on the way though.

Well, would love to discuss this more but I gotta head down. Don't know when I'll be back on. But I'll see you guys at the SO.

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

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Oh man. You're on the cusp of being the first person to put 200 to the wheels NA and on stock displacement, Mark. That will be AWESOME. Represent at the SO!

wow, almost no difference? sounds like our engines have some serious flow impedances while NA. can't wait to see what you figure out!

Erik P.
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All we know is, He's not The Stig... But he is The Stig's Spartan cousin!

If it helps flow NA then you know it will help boosted. Sounds like we will finally find out if the OBX manifold really does any good hunh? Cant wait to find out what you have in store!

I was told the obx mani splits at the welds. true? untrue? I think they look nice.

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Grabbed the laptop when I headed down; stealing signal from somewhere

I appreciate the words of support Bri. As you know with anything like this, it's two steps forward one step back. I've been pretty fortunate in that I have had a lot of forward steps and no too many in reverse.

This engine build has been fighting me for some reason. Just various little bullshit things to slow me down. So this is just one more thing to work on. I'm actually kinda happy it happened like this (except for the co$t side of this) because it allows us to see the limits of flow (IF my assumptions are correct ). We can also see how much an intake can affect our engines.

Yeah, it could be the head, valves, exhaust (all part of the flow path), but I am highly suspicious of our intake design anyway (for making high flow NA power). I'm 99% on the intake. And, of course, as slo2g points out, if I get an intake made that works, we'll have an easier path to stuff the air through on turbo. Now who wants to make the LTH?

PLEASE don't take this as support for the OBX, far from it. I know I'm going to have to work to get it to fit properly (I'm fortunate in that I don't need the map). I'm fully aware that the thing will crack relatively quickly. It's just being used as a POSSIBLE band aid.

But then wouldn't it really suck if it was something goofy like a couple of collapsed lifters or something (nah, it's not that).

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

I have never heard of the OBX manifold cracking.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

at this point if you want to beat the 200 barrier you need some radical mods

ITB could be good if matched with a long tube header + no cat and a really free flowing exhaust line
for minimal gain also a clipped water pump and windage tray

Alain

one of the 2.4 true pionners

Jason|1997 Eclipse RS

I contributed to the wiki!

happy p'ple

You guys sure do like to spend my time and money, lol.

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm