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DSMTalonAug-03-07 07:22 PM
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#105453, "NO START! I NEED SOME HELP GUYS!"


          

ok this is very strange and its starting to piss me off. i have turbo'd my car recently and had nothing but hell with it since. i havent even got to drive it a mile! anyway the one time i did get to drive it it started to get hot on me, so i shut it off and just coasted back to the shop where im working on my car. got it back, let it cool down some and then re-started it. no problem right? well the next day i went to go start it again and move it out of the shop and all she does is crank and crank. so i cranked on her for a few more seconds and then all of a sudden she loaded up bad with fuel and backfired out the tailpipe. i checked for spark, and i get a very intermittent spark, that seems to occur mostly when i first start cranking. same thing with injector pulse. i checked the #1 cyl for pulse, and it pulses once when i first crank it. but it must be getting fuel from somewhere otherwise it wouldnt backfire. i replaced the crank and cam sensors, and the ASD relay seems to be working normally. i had recently redone the timing on it and so that isnt a question in my mind that its off..i know the cams line up perfect and the crank is on. when i do the keydance i get the following codes:12,14,42. i did check for voltage at the cam sensor, and i have a good ground, and 5.01V and 8.44 volts on the other two wires. i even tried swapping the PCM with another unit i have and still nothing! HELP ME OUT GUYS! I need to get this thing running before the 20th when i have to go back to college.

heres a link to my other post that chronicles my BS turbo experience.

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DSMTalonAug-04-07 08:35 AM
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Aug-04-07 09:31 AM by DSMTalon

          

one thing i forgot to mention is that i have zero tach in the dash. this made me think that i needed a crank sensor, but replacing it didnt change anything...

plus i noticed my link didn't show up...my bad

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=100963&mode=full

edit: i checked out the crank sensor wires and i have a good ground and a good 5v & 9v reference. but still no spark to the coil or anything. i do have power to the middle wire on the coil.

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DSMTalonAug-04-07 05:56 PM
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#105466, "RE: NO START! I NEED SOME HELP GUYS!"
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well damn.. i look like an idiot now. lol. well my timing was off. i moticed that while cranking the engine the timing belt between the cams was bouncing up and down..so i tried moving it with my fingers, and the damn belt moved about 4 teeth back into each gear, indicating some serious slack! THATS SOME SCARY SHIT! anyway i put her up on TDC, and the exhaust cam had jumped time by about 3 teeth. thats what i get for getting in a hurry and not following the timing procedure to the t. so i retimed it, following the procedure down to the last dot, and she started! yay for me.

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freelancefoolAug-04-07 06:33 PM
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#105467, "RE: NO START! I NEED SOME HELP GUYS!"
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Were you able to slide the pin for the tensioner in and out easily? If not it isn't tensioned properly.

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DSMTalonAug-04-07 06:48 PM
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#105470, "RE: NO START! I NEED SOME HELP GUYS!"
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yeah i got it figured out the second time. the first time i was just too excited and got in a rush and i didnt pull the 28 ft-lbs on the tensioner pulley. i just jammed it up with my fingers and a prybar and tightened the sucker down. lol my dumbass mistake. stepping over dollars to save pennies. anyway this last time around i followed the procedure exactly as it said and it all seems cherry. i drove the car for a bit before it overheated and it seemed ok. ill double check it in the morning and see if anything changed on it. maybe my tensioner is bad.

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