Welcome to the 2GNT Forum!
Home Site Background Info & Specs Mods & Tech Info CAPS Part Reviews Donate 2GNT Stickers
Search Printer-friendly copy 0 Users in Chat
Top 2GNT Technical Performance/Engine Auto Trans- A604 topic #2053
View in linear mode

Subject: "What's up with the ATX tranny..." Previous topic | Next topic
gilee_8Oct-08-03 06:01 AM
Member since Jun 11th 2002
1441 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#2053, "What's up with the ATX tranny..."
Oct-08-03 06:07 AM by gilee_8



          

Sup guys.
I need this answer QUICK.
My 1997 eclipse, I just changed the tranny oil and I put in ATF-3 Coasta. And I also changed the filter and new seal also.

OK, here is my problem, before I did everything above, everything is perfect, afterward, I get this gear in delay. It only happens when I put into R and D.... during D gear, it changes gear fine. but whe nI first put into R or D, the car is in Neutral for like 1 second before it get into gear.

So now this is the problem, first I thought I didn't do the seal good, so tranny oil is leaking, so I checked everything to day, and got under the car, PERFECT.... Tranny oil is at PERFECT HEIGHT!

So what's sup??? Did this ever happened to any of you?
Thanks guys...any ideas are greatly appreciated.

BTW, how should the tranny oil level should appears on the stick?
____________________ADD_WARM_____HOT
When cold over nite? ==> |--------|-------------|
When fully warm up? ==> |--------|-------------|

THanks guys emoji

~~~~~~~~Modification~~~~~~~~
Performance: MegaSquirt v3.0 Fuel & Spark, 8.6:1 JE piston, Eagle Long Rods, SPEC III Clutch, EVOIII B16G, FMIC, Aeromotive 1:1 FPR, Walbro 255HP, 680cc Injectors, 2.5" DP, 3" Magnaflow Cat, 3.5" Greddy EVO CatBack, Greddy Electronic EGT,FUEL,BOOST,A/F gauges...
Interior: Racing Seats, Metallic Interior, 15-Speakers System, Keyless, Dynomat Insulated, Neons...
Exterior: 1999 Body with turbo wing, Halo Projector Headlight, 4300K HID, 17" Mille Rims, GSX Calipers...
Coming Soon: Water Injection, Redo Undercarriage, Repaint Exterior


$240 For New Complete GSX Calipers Kit (Calipers, Bracket, Shim, Pad, Bolts, etc) Email Me If Interested!

1995 RED Eclipse GS-'T': Stage VI 20PSI
2010 Audi S5 Quattro

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Replies to this topic
RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..., Franklindsm, Oct-08-03 08:19 AM, #1
RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..., gilee_8, Oct-08-03 08:31 AM, #2
      RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..., Franklindsm, Oct-08-03 09:06 AM, #3
           RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..., gilee_8, Oct-08-03 10:38 AM, #4
           RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..., gilee_8, Oct-08-03 10:57 AM, #5
                RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..., Franklindsm, Oct-08-03 01:11 PM, #6
                     RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..., DSMkarz, Oct-14-03 05:14 PM, #7
                     RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..., scdsmracr, Oct-14-03 05:45 PM, #8
                          RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..., BlueMoonEclipse, Nov-08-03 02:26 PM, #9
                               RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..., amljbs, Nov-08-03 03:02 PM, #10
                     RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..., AznKaos15, May-06-04 12:03 PM, #11

FranklindsmOct-08-03 08:19 AM
Donating 2GNT member
490 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#2055, "RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..."
In response to Reply # 0
Oct-08-03 08:20 AM by Franklindsm

          

sounds like a fluid problem maybe. The fluid should be in the warm-hot area i spose, at any temperature that should be ok.

not to beat a dead horse, but how are you checking the fluid?

****************************************
Formerly Gay
*TOTALLED* =(

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
gilee_8Oct-08-03 08:31 AM
Member since Jun 11th 2002
1441 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#2056, "RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..."
In response to Reply # 1




          

Well, what you mean by fluid problems?
Also, I clean the stick, and dip it in, and take it out and see the level.

The above |----|---------| diagram is not indicating that the level is at warm... I want to ask where the level should appear at cold and hot time?

Thanks guys.
Gil

~~~~~~~~Modification~~~~~~~~
Performance: MegaSquirt v3.0 Fuel & Spark, 8.6:1 JE piston, Eagle Long Rods, SPEC III Clutch, EVOIII B16G, FMIC, Aeromotive 1:1 FPR, Walbro 255HP, 680cc Injectors, 2.5" DP, 3" Magnaflow Cat, 3.5" Greddy EVO CatBack, Greddy Electronic EGT,FUEL,BOOST,A/F gauges...
Interior: Racing Seats, Metallic Interior, 15-Speakers System, Keyless, Dynomat Insulated, Neons...
Exterior: 1999 Body with turbo wing, Halo Projector Headlight, 4300K HID, 17" Mille Rims, GSX Calipers...
Coming Soon: Water Injection, Redo Undercarriage, Repaint Exterior


$240 For New Complete GSX Calipers Kit (Calipers, Bracket, Shim, Pad, Bolts, etc) Email Me If Interested!

1995 RED Eclipse GS-'T': Stage VI 20PSI
2010 Audi S5 Quattro

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
FranklindsmOct-08-03 09:06 AM
Donating 2GNT member
490 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#2057, "RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..."
In response to Reply # 2


          

dude no. i know how you check the fluid...

Do you start the car, run it through the gears and check it in N on a level surface or are you just pouring fluid in without doing all said above?

If so, you are overfilling the hell out of your transmission and are gunna burn up the pum emoji

****************************************
Formerly Gay
*TOTALLED* =(

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
gilee_8Oct-08-03 10:38 AM
Member since Jun 11th 2002
1441 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#2060, "RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..."
In response to Reply # 3




          

WHAT THE FUCK....

OK, please...can you tell me in details... you are really really scaring me now.
Plesae tell me.

OK.... Now I redo everything over again.
I pour out all the fluid, replace the gasket.
THen what?

(am I right here?)
1) Start the car (with NO TRANNY FLUID - EMPTY)
2) Go through all the gears (moving the car? or just stop and move to each gear?)
3) then put the gear into neutral (at this point, should the engine still running?)
4) then at neutral, I pour in the tranny fluid?

Please help me.
I drove for about 20-40 miles after changing the tranny fluid.
And I NEVER push the car yet... no more then 3K RPM.
Will the pump be damaged NOW?

Please help me!!! I am very worried now.
Gil

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
gilee_8Oct-08-03 10:57 AM
Member since Jun 11th 2002
1441 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#2061, "RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..."
In response to Reply # 3




          

Hey...Ok... this is the new updates.

Driving the car, stoped at the light.
Then the car is in Neutral state... even though it's still in D position, the car won't move....

What's wrong??? plesae... if it's the OIL is too much.
Can I just redo EVERYTHING... pour them out and so on?
But please guys..tell me what I have to do when I put the oil in and so on.... And what happened to the oil pump?

Will it be DEAD? or ??? just DON"T drive it now..and save it?

please guys..
Sorry if I sound very crazy..but I am very worried about it!
Thanks a TON!
Gil:rolleyes

~~~~~~~~Modification~~~~~~~~
Performance: MegaSquirt v3.0 Fuel & Spark, 8.6:1 JE piston, Eagle Long Rods, SPEC III Clutch, EVOIII B16G, FMIC, Aeromotive 1:1 FPR, Walbro 255HP, 680cc Injectors, 2.5" DP, 3" Magnaflow Cat, 3.5" Greddy EVO CatBack, Greddy Electronic EGT,FUEL,BOOST,A/F gauges...
Interior: Racing Seats, Metallic Interior, 15-Speakers System, Keyless, Dynomat Insulated, Neons...
Exterior: 1999 Body with turbo wing, Halo Projector Headlight, 4300K HID, 17" Mille Rims, GSX Calipers...
Coming Soon: Water Injection, Redo Undercarriage, Repaint Exterior


$240 For New Complete GSX Calipers Kit (Calipers, Bracket, Shim, Pad, Bolts, etc) Email Me If Interested!

1995 RED Eclipse GS-'T': Stage VI 20PSI
2010 Audi S5 Quattro

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
FranklindsmOct-08-03 01:11 PM
Donating 2GNT member
490 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#2066, "RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..."
In response to Reply # 5


          

gil,
k, listen u emoji

Im going to start from the beginning with a pan drain:

Drop the pan.
Let fluid drip out.
Replace Filter.
Replace Gasket.
Put pan back up.
Tighten Bolts.
Add {about} 4qts to start out. The whole tranny is 9.1qts, so we'll start with 4qts because you dont drain 100% with a drain and fill.
After adding, warm the engine up to operating speed.
WITH the car started and foot on the break never letting off shift through each gear:
P 5 seconds
R 5 seconds
N 5 seconds
D 5 seconds
N check fluid

Hope that clears up any misunderstanding.

****************************************
Formerly Gay
*TOTALLED* =(

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                    
DSMkarzOct-14-03 05:14 PM
Member since Jun 04th 2003
184 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#2104, "RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..."
In response to Reply # 6


          

Are you checking it with the car running. I had the same problem in a p.o.s. I had but I knew the pan was leaking it out. What that delay is from is lack of line pressure so the pump has to work a little to get the pressure up. That is what was meant by fluid problem emoji

TeamLSR member @ landspeedracing.com

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                        
scdsmracrOct-14-03 05:45 PM
Member since Jun 30th 2003
144 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#2105, "RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..."
In response to Reply # 7
Oct-14-03 05:46 PM by scdsmracr

          

man sorry to be the one to tell ya this but your tranny is more than likely gone. maby you got lucky and just burnt up the pump but it sounds likt to me that you burnt up the clutches too. or if your really lucky and the dsm gods are on your side it just went into limp mode.

if its in limp mode just reste the tcu (transmission controll unit) by removeing the negative cable on your battery for 45 seconds and it should reset the tcu and the ecu. your car wont idle worth a shit for about a hour becuse it has to learn all the perameters again. if that doesnt work them my guess is that your tranny is burnt up. im going through similar probs but i know mines burnt up. thats a whole diff story tho.

look around for a rebuild ive been quoted ay where from 500-1800 for a rebuild. you can get a used a604 from a junk yard for anywhere between 300 and 1000 and it may not last long i would go with the rebuild cues u get a warenty and all

what ever you do just make sure the level is perfectly correct the a604 hates too little or to much and heat is our #1 enemy. while your at it install a remote filter and a cooler best 150 bucks you will ever spend.

if im wrong about anythign feel free to correst me

http://publish.hometown.aol.com/southerncomphort/myhomepage/avatar2.jpg?mtbrand=AOL_US

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                            
BlueMoonEclipseNov-08-03 02:26 PM
Member since Sep 25th 2003
1352 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#2205, "RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..."
In response to Reply # 8




          

Hmmm ....you say it engages after like a second or so of just spinning?? or does it not engage at all??

anny progress? fix???

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                
amljbsNov-08-03 03:02 PM
Member since Jul 18th 2002
587 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#2206, "RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..."
In response to Reply # 9


          

Hes low on fluid and the tranny is doing what it was designed to do to protect itself. Dude you need to listen to franklin above as he stated you need to check the fluid properly. Ive seen this same exact thing happen with the A604 many times.

1998 Eclipse GST

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                    
AznKaos15May-06-04 12:03 PM
Member since May 05th 2003
256 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#2835, "RE: What's up with the ATX tranny..."
In response to Reply # 6


          

Originally posted by Franklindsm
gil, k, listen u emoji Im going to start from the beginning with a pan drain: Drop the pan. Let fluid drip out. Replace Filter. Replace Gasket. Put pan back up. Tighten Bolts. Add {about} 4qts to start out. The whole tranny is 9.1qts, so we'll start with 4qts because you dont drain 100% with a drain and fill. After adding, warm the engine up to operating speed. WITH the car started and foot on the break never letting off shift through each gear: P 5 seconds R 5 seconds N 5 seconds D 5 seconds N check fluid Hope that clears up any misunderstanding.


i know this is an old thread but i jus want to make sure. after those steps, should the level be in the warm zone or the hot zone? thanks

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Top 2GNT Technical Performance/Engine Auto Trans- A604 topic #2053 Previous topic | Next topic
Powered by DCForum+ Version 2.2
Copyright 1997-2005 DCScripts.com, Copyright 2005-2026 2gnt.com
Generated in 0.029 seconds, executing 38 queries.