Ya, I know it's a stock 95/96 Talon bumper...my Acura EL (Cnd car only) loving friend who posted it on that site 4 years ago still hasn't changed it. Having it dropped 4" isn't crazy..it's been like that for 4 years with 1G Tsi 16" wheels, and never has a problem.But now that I want to go 18's I don't want to risk damaging the wheels or the tires....and ofcourse not the car.