the coilover springs themselves were only 4" long. I don't have my coilovers really all that low and there is really only about 1" of wheel well gap now - I guess 3 fingers is right. I could definitely go much lower (to the ground) and I am tempted to say I could get close to stock height.

My car is creaking a little bit right now, but I suspect a little bit of teflon here and there will solve that problem quickly.

Also we ran out of time installing them so I couldn't get the 15 dollar camber mod in there - should get it in on Tuesday though.

When the weather gets a little bit nicer and my car is all finished (still some things to do) I would definitely like to do a little cruising with you.

I might be making a drive to Syracuse in a week or two, not that its really all that far (60 miles). So its only an hours drive.

Hope those answer your questions.

2003 VW GTI 1.8t.. I used to have a 95 Eclipse but well...water sucks.