Originally posted by DR1665
INTHEFACE! (I knew, as soon as I read this thread earlier today, that Mikey would make an appearance.) lulz Here's an interesting thought for everyone wanting a PnP MSnS: Buy the harness kit, make a PnP harness some Friday night when you're sitting at home with your thumbs up your asses, and then buy yourself an MSnS to plug into it. Conversely, the MSnS wiring schematics have been out there for years now. You all know you can see where the MS harness either taps in or replaces the line. That beat-ass Chilton's manual in the garage (or the Wiki here) has pin outs for pretty much every ECU ever in a 2GNT. Why not trace those lines from the MS schematic to the ECU connectors? Rather than sit around waiting for someone else who is obviously going to get burned severely by people reverse engineering his shit once it hits the market, think outside the box. Knowing what components the MSnS will be controlling, can you trace those leads to the ECU connectors, de-pin them, and run them to the d-sub on the MSnS, to utilize the factory harness? Beyond that, if you've got emissions testing in your county, how would you - PERSONALLY - work around this? Me? I'm thinking I'd figure out how to add the ECU connector pig tails to the factory harness. I'd pin my MS to the pig tails. When I ran MSnS, I'd plug the pig tail into the original harness in the car, then plug that extension into the ECU. Bingo. MSnS is using factory harness. When emissions time came, I'd remove the MS "harness" and plug the original connector in. Done deal. I think we're all plenty annoyed with people who come in expecting others to just give them the answers these days. Maybe we should be stepping up our game as vets and innovating. Just a thought.