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the_invinceApr-09-03 03:36 PM
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#48746, "RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?"
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howell and afx were saying the block can handle upwards of 50-60 psi, to give an idea of how strong it is, not because it's supposed to be used with a turbo for the sole purpose of getting 1500hp, it doesn't even have to be used with a turbo, with just the increase in liters we could expect probably the same increase as from putting a stage 2 turbo system on your car. and imagine putting a stage 1 turbo on top of that, look at gains of 200+hp. to lay it out straight.

1. it makes it easier to gain more hp with smaller mods.

2. it's lighter so it takes less hp to make the car quicker(or you can just keep your passenger seat. )

3. just because it can handle 1500hp doesn't mean you try to get it to, I mean just bolting in the new block might be the only mod you need to put down 200+hp to the wheels.

4. it's not necessarily an engine swap, since it's still a 420a, it's more like a stroker block but better.

5. when considering pricing, it's not that expensive for what you get, a 3.0l block with stage 1 is like a stage 3 equivelant, probably more with an intercooler and complementary fuel upgrades, considering that a hahn stage 3 is almost $6000, you're getting the same output with less changes, in the old post afx also said that the block can be used with stock internals so you can run a stage 1 without going to forged internals and be making the same power as stage 3+ guys.

6. it gives the all motor people something to run with besides the usual i/e/h.

7. the new neon that everybody got all riled up about is the mexican 420a(from what I've gathered), except it's a 2.4l turbo, if the specs from the srt are that good with basically a 2.4l 420a turbo, what can we expect from a 3.0l 420a turbo?

8. traction- how do the stage 4+ guys get traction? there are drivetrain modifications to get more traction, how does the hahn racecraft eclipse get traction? seriously, traction is a minor setback amidst the great gain. at 400+ hp the hahn eclipse still has enough traction to run 11's. so logically, you could get at least 400hp before traction becomes a really serious issue. and exactly how many people on here are making 400hp?

  

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3.0l aluminum 420a? [View all] , the_invince, Apr-03-03 08:03 PM
  RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, FlyinEsi, Apr-03-03 09:22 PM, #1
RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, brynden29, Apr-04-03 03:51 AM, #2
      RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, BuckNutty, Apr-04-03 04:25 AM, #3
           RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, TeamMichael_97RS, Apr-04-03 04:56 AM, #4
                RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, thedawg, Apr-04-03 07:25 AM, #5
                     RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, a_miller_76, Apr-04-03 08:55 AM, #6
                          RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, the_invince, Apr-04-03 09:35 AM, #7
                               RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, the_invince, Apr-04-03 10:15 AM, #8
                                    RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, HadesOmega, Apr-04-03 11:09 AM, #9
                                         RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, thedawg, Apr-04-03 01:22 PM, #10
                                              RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, bustrblue2, Apr-04-03 01:45 PM, #11
                                                   RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, TeamDR1665, Apr-04-03 04:00 PM, #12
                                                        RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, The1Bill, Apr-04-03 05:49 PM, #13
                                                             RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, TeamMichael_97RS, Apr-04-03 10:04 PM, #14
                                                                  RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, bustrblue2, Apr-05-03 02:01 PM, #15
                                                                       RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, FlyinEsi, Apr-06-03 06:41 PM, #16
                                                                            RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, bustrblue2, Apr-06-03 08:57 PM, #17
                                                                                 RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, tacoman123, Apr-07-03 10:42 AM, #18
                                                                                      RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, the_invince, Apr-07-03 10:49 AM, #19
                                                                                           RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, bustrblue2, Apr-07-03 11:00 AM, #20
                                                                                                RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, the_invince, Apr-07-03 12:21 PM, #21
                                                                                                     RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, bustrblue2, Apr-07-03 02:07 PM, #22
                                                                                                          RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, tacoman123, Apr-07-03 03:57 PM, #23
                                                                                                               RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, the_invince, Apr-07-03 06:31 PM, #24
                                                                                                                    RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, bustrblue2, Apr-07-03 07:45 PM, #25
                                                                                                                         RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, tacoman123, Apr-08-03 11:18 AM, #26
                                                                                                                              RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, bustrblue2, Apr-08-03 12:09 PM, #27
                                                                                                                                   RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, Twiste, Apr-08-03 05:27 PM, #28
                                                                                                                                        RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, The1Bill, Apr-08-03 09:06 PM, #29
                                                                                                                                             RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, bustrblue2, Apr-09-03 07:12 AM, #30
                                                                                                                                             RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, the_invince, Apr-09-03 10:53 AM, #31
                                                                                                                                             RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, bustrblue2, Apr-09-03 12:26 PM, #32
                                                                                                                                             RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, CopperEclipse96, Apr-09-03 02:48 PM, #33
                                                                                                                                             RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, the_invince, Apr-09-03 03:36 PM #34
                                                                                                                                             RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, bustrblue2, Apr-09-03 05:21 PM, #36
                                                                                                                                             RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, TeamMetalJim, Apr-09-03 09:16 PM, #37
                                                                                                                                             RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, bustrblue2, Apr-10-03 01:31 PM, #39
RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, gilee_8, Apr-09-03 04:55 PM, #35
RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, 95_ESi_Person, Apr-10-03 10:36 AM, #38
      RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, the_invince, Apr-10-03 06:21 PM, #40
           RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, 420AYE, Apr-11-03 07:13 AM, #41
RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, WheatKing, Apr-11-03 10:55 AM, #42
RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, the_invince, Apr-11-03 11:18 AM, #43
RE: 3.0l aluminum 420a?, bustrblue2, Apr-11-03 11:22 AM, #44

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