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2GeclipseRSAug-22-07 11:50 AM
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Aug-22-07 12:41 PM by 2GeclipseRS

          

I have a few check valves laying around. Making a canister shouldn't take me more than an 1-2 hours. That one for the busa is small but due to it being a bike it's practical. Like i said, as long as my canister holds like the stock mani, there wont be a problem. Correcting the a/f ratio with megasquirt is going to be a long, drawn out thing. I'll have to re-map when i have all my turbo components ready to go which will be double the headache. The turbo i want is an internally gated t3 series garrett turbo that's good for 7psi and up to 270hp. 170 bucks shipped from spooled. This wonderful experiment will be done on a stock bottom end until i break something....lol.

Your insight on the matter has been pretty fucking awesome. When i had the idea to tackle the job, i was pretty clueless. Every itb thread i came across on neons.org threw up question and concern about vaccum. I'm going to look alot more into the matter and see what others are doing as far as itb/turbo goes. My plans right now seem pretty straight foward and will get the job done but i'm willing to adapt if i find something better that makes more sense.

Edit: I was reading this http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?t=256820&start=25&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=itb+turbo thread and had an interesting idea. In an N/A car, the itb's allow each cylinder to get a shitload of air with restriction being next to none. Throttle body size vs power/reliability has to do alot with the length and shape of the runners, right?

In a turbo app, the throttles can only grab as much air as the turbo can provide. In theory, a low-boost atmostphere using a large plenum, i can go with smaller throttle bodies to maintain driveability. Sweet. Since boost builds progressivly in relation to rpm, I dont see why it would be a problem or cause any more restriction than running a traditional intake manifold with smooth runners and a large, single tb. Another thing i found out is putting a port for the upper ic pipe on the side of the plenum sends the air surging across the tops of the throttle bodies instead of directly into them. The intake port on the plenum would have to be directly infront of the tb's velocity stacks forcing air straight into them and would have to be shaped something like a wide vaccum cleaner attachment.

Though, it seems that the neon guys think it's pointless to itb a turbo car. It is overly-complicated but that's what makes it fun. The tech aspects of the setup just picks at people's brains and that's why i got interested in it.

If i can't get it done and working right, i will just turbo this car and pick up another 2gnt to build into an N/A using the itb manifold i built for my current car. Win/win situation either way i look at it.

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Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup..... [View all] , 2GeclipseRS, Aug-15-07 12:35 PM
  RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., foggy45, Aug-15-07 07:46 PM, #1
RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., cougar694u, Aug-16-07 05:15 AM, #2
RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Aug-17-07 01:30 PM, #3
      RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., foggy45, Aug-17-07 06:09 PM, #4
           RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Aug-17-07 08:47 PM, #5
                RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., foggy45, Aug-19-07 05:07 AM, #6
                     RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., foggy45, Aug-19-07 07:21 AM, #7
                          RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Aug-20-07 12:59 PM, #8
                               RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., foggy45, Aug-20-07 02:14 PM, #9
                                    RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Aug-20-07 06:36 PM, #10
                                         RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., cougar694u, Aug-21-07 09:00 AM, #11
                                              RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Aug-21-07 04:14 PM, #12
                                                   RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., cougar694u, Aug-21-07 04:29 PM, #13
                                                        RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Aug-22-07 11:50 AM #14
                                                             RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., foggy45, Aug-22-07 02:31 PM, #15
                                                                  RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Aug-22-07 07:15 PM, #16
                                                                       RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., cougar694u, Aug-23-07 03:07 AM, #17
                                                                       RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Aug-23-07 12:09 PM, #19
                                                                            RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., foggy45, Aug-23-07 04:43 PM, #20
                                                                                 RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Aug-24-07 04:05 AM, #21
                                                                       RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Aug-23-07 04:05 AM, #18
                                                                            RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., AMM, Aug-27-07 01:02 PM, #22
                                                                                 RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Aug-27-07 01:37 PM, #23
                                                                                      RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., AMM, Aug-27-07 06:31 PM, #24
                                                                                           RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., Moderatorbullettdsm, Aug-28-07 12:08 AM, #25
                                                                                                RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., AMM, Aug-28-07 06:09 AM, #26
                                                                                                     RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., Moderatorbullettdsm, Aug-28-07 08:54 AM, #27
                                                                                                     RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Aug-31-07 08:57 AM, #28
                                                                                                          RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., AMM, Aug-31-07 09:21 AM, #29
                                                                                                               RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Sep-02-07 03:39 PM, #30
                                                                                                     RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., McFox, Sep-02-07 04:52 PM, #31
                                                                                                          RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., AMM, Sep-04-07 06:17 AM, #32
                                                                                                               RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Sep-04-07 07:45 AM, #33
                                                                                                                    RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., AMM, Sep-04-07 09:04 AM, #34
                                                                                                                         RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Sep-04-07 09:10 AM, #35
                                                                                                                              RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., powellds, Sep-04-07 01:11 PM, #36
                                                                                                                                   RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., powellds, Nov-14-07 08:38 AM, #37
                                                                                                                                        RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., Moderatorbullettdsm, Nov-14-07 09:26 AM, #38
                                                                                                                                             RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Nov-16-07 08:58 AM, #39
                                                                                                                                             RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., TeamDR1665, Nov-16-07 11:06 AM, #40
                                                                                                                                             RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., 2GeclipseRS, Nov-17-07 07:59 AM, #41
                                                                                                                                             RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., AMM, Nov-17-07 12:48 PM, #42
                                                                                                                                             RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., Moderatorbullettdsm, Nov-17-07 01:37 PM, #43
                                                                                                                                             RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., AMM, Nov-17-07 03:15 PM, #44
                                                                                                                                             RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., TeamDR1665, Nov-17-07 04:05 PM, #45
                                                                                                                                             RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., AMM, Nov-17-07 04:18 PM, #46
                                                                                                                                             RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., Moderatorbullettdsm, Nov-17-07 11:34 PM, #47
                                                                                                                                             RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., TeamDR1665, Nov-18-07 06:16 AM, #48
                                                                                                                                             RE: Ok. So i'm going for the itb setup....., Moderatorbullettdsm, Nov-18-07 10:04 AM, #49

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