first off, i want to apologize to wide for all this shit, i wasnt knocking his product just letting him know that what he was selling wasnt worth 2400 or what it seemed like he was expecting at first. and jdpilot, no offense, but why do you have to come in and defend every body, chris can defend himself, at least im pretty sure he can, as long as he isnt taking up the nose pictures . and about him being a prick with his opinions, so are you dood. he has as much as right to post his opinions as you do. and you are right, they are just opinions so you should just take it as a grain of salt, especially on the internet. and for being an "elder" as you call it you can act pretty immature. and all that shit you said about dont pick on elders and throw them under the bus, thats pretty retarded. 98% of the members are here for the same thing, to learn more about their cars and improve their cars. and even if he has only been on the board for 7 days or however long, his mods look like he has been in this game alot longer than you have. and just because you have been here for so long and are a charter member doesnt mean you get my respect. you dont get respect based on the day you signed up, you get it based on what you know.