I recently joined this board, and i first read about how this guy couldn't beat a v6 mustang(an automatic at that)!!!!That's BS!!! HE said his eclipse was stick, and I've had many run-ins with various v6 mustangs, never lost.... ever(even when odds were against me)!!This is where my pride for imports comes in! My goal is to be able to beat a z28, or trans am- you choose. I wish to do this without turbo. EVERYBODY!!! Please tell me your views on mustang/trans am/camaro vs. eclipse!!!