im running two alpine type r 12s(2+2) and i consider them to be very clear, and very loud. but it all depends on what youre used to. if all of your friends have competition systems, maybe it wont sound that great. i fried my rockford 1000x1 with the type r's and bought a 1000 watt mono class d sony amp (because of lack of money!) and i still think it sounds great. like i said, i think its clear and its pretty loud, 146db. i know youre wanting a different amp and 10's but i just thought i would throw in my .02