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96BlckGSNov-04-05 08:16 AM
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#91061, "Turboing my 420a with 115000???"


          

I kno you are all going to tell me to read and i have, im just trying to compile all of the info onto one page. So if you could bear with me and just help me out it would be greatly appreciated. I just bought a used STAR stage 2 kit, i kno i should rebuild my engine first but i dont have the money yet and the boost bug has got me and i havent even put the turbo on yet lol. i just wanna kno is when i put it on with stock internals, say my compression is fine,200, i have a SFMU, SAFC2, is that all i need in regards to tuning because from what ive read tuning is VERY IMPORTANT, and the last thing i want is to blow my engine.I also have a walbro 255lph. Wat else is MAJORLY important that im missing, just dont want to blow my engine. cant afford to do that, If you can help me out that would be great thanx guys and feel free to im me on aim, im always on easier to talk that way. THANX

1996 Black Eclipse GS
STAR Stage 2 Turbo With custom equal length manifold and full 3 inch turbo back exhaust
8psi- 9.61- 1/8th mile
14.4- 1/4 mile
MS Powered

  

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BlizareNov-01-05 12:54 PM
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#91062, "RE: Turboing my 420a with 115000???"
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Originally posted by 96BlckGS
say my compression is fine,200,


Is that your compression after 115K miles?? I don't think so.


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djtrickeeNov-01-05 02:15 PM
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#91064, "RE: Turboing my 420a with 115000???"
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Originally posted by Blizare
Originally posted by 96BlckGS say my compression is fine,200,
Is that your compression after 115K miles?? I don't think so.


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96BlckGSNov-01-05 02:20 PM
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#91065, "RE: Turboing my 420a with 115000???"
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Originally posted by Blizare
Originally posted by 96BlckGS say my compression is fine,200,
Is that your compression after 115K miles?? I don't think so.


yes thats wat its at, i got it from a guy with 95k on it maybe he did something but thats the compression, maybe a little different, havent checked it in a month or to, but thats wat it was a month ago, but that doesnt ansswer my main question

1996 Black Eclipse GS
STAR Stage 2 Turbo With custom equal length manifold and full 3 inch turbo back exhaust
8psi- 9.61- 1/8th mile
14.4- 1/4 mile
MS Powered

  

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ForceFed420aNov-01-05 02:46 PM
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#91066, "RE: Turboing my 420a with 115000???"
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Well, help us out and list EVERYTHING you got with the kit. Then we'll go from there...


Brian

Red 97 Eclipse GS (420a) MTX
Custom Garrett T3 Turbo system
Megasquirt w/52 lb/hr injectors & a Walbro 255
Kicker/Alpine Audio (3 amps, 2 subs)
90 Cav 2.2 TBI auto (winter) <- yeah, it's fast

  

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RxR_EclipseNov-01-05 02:51 PM
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#91068, "RE: Turboing my 420a with 115000???"
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Nov-01-05 02:56 PM by RxR_Eclipse

          

You dont need the safc, sell it. Use the SFMU and your stock system @ not more than 8 psi intercooled, and you should be good to go. Just install it all correctly. There is a TON of information here on the site, in fact you should just bookmark the search area...

Kevin
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96BlckGSNov-01-05 03:05 PM
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#91069, "RE: Turboing my 420a with 115000???"
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how can i tune the car without the safc2, to keep it form running lean and rich, doesnt the safc2 tune it.

Parts with turbo kit:
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Greddy Type S BOV
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1996 Black Eclipse GS
STAR Stage 2 Turbo With custom equal length manifold and full 3 inch turbo back exhaust
8psi- 9.61- 1/8th mile
14.4- 1/4 mile
MS Powered

  

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CarbonFiberRSTNov-01-05 03:58 PM
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#91070, "RE: Turboing my 420a with 115000???"
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you "tune" it with a bleed valve on the sfmu. You put in a disk that raises the fuel pressure enough to make it rich, then bleed off the boost until the sfmu raises the fuel pressure the right amount. The safc can cause problems if you try to adjust fuel under boost, its only somewhat usefull for getting big injectors to idle better. I've used 42lb injectors for over a year with no problems and I don't have an safc.


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ForceFed420aNov-01-05 04:48 PM
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#91071, "RE: Turboing my 420a with 115000???"
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Okay, what about
intercooler piping
Some type of MAP limiter (voltage or vacuum?)
gauges (at least A/F EGT, boost)
fuel pump
spark plugs
fuel pressure gauge


That's all I can think about off the top of my head. The guys are right though, there's a lot of info on this site.

Brian

Red 97 Eclipse GS (420a) MTX
Custom Garrett T3 Turbo system
Megasquirt w/52 lb/hr injectors & a Walbro 255
Kicker/Alpine Audio (3 amps, 2 subs)
90 Cav 2.2 TBI auto (winter) <- yeah, it's fast

  

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96BlckGSNov-01-05 07:12 PM
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#91073, "RE: Turboing my 420a with 115000???"
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Originally posted by ForceFed420a
Okay, what about intercooler piping Some type of MAP limiter (voltage or vacuum?) gauges (at least A/F EGT, boost) fuel pump spark plugs fuel pressure gauge That's all I can think about off the top of my head. The guys are right though, there's a lot of info on this site. Brian


I left out the intercooler piping because i thought that was a given,i have all the piping, wat is a MAP limiter wat does it do and do i need one, and i just recently did a whole tuneup, new coil pack, spark plugs and wires, and i am going to get a 255lph walbro fuel pump

1996 Black Eclipse GS
STAR Stage 2 Turbo With custom equal length manifold and full 3 inch turbo back exhaust
8psi- 9.61- 1/8th mile
14.4- 1/4 mile
MS Powered

  

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ForceFed420aNov-02-05 03:20 AM
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#91076, "RE: Turboing my 420a with 115000???"
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The stock Map (manifold air pressure) sensor is accustomed to reading vacuum (part throttle/idle) and normal air pressure (WOT). It's not used to seeing positive pressure (boost). With some type of clamp on the MAP (either voltage, or with a missing link which doesn't let the map see boost), the map never knows you're going into boost. this keeps the computer happy. If it does see boost, it'll buck cuz it'll pull fuel(?) and won't let you boost. That's why you need to limit it.


BTW: wHat has an "H" in it


Brian

Red 97 Eclipse GS (420a) MTX
Custom Garrett T3 Turbo system
Megasquirt w/52 lb/hr injectors & a Walbro 255
Kicker/Alpine Audio (3 amps, 2 subs)
90 Cav 2.2 TBI auto (winter) <- yeah, it's fast

  

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