is it necessary for anyone running a turbo in our cars to have a oil cooler? i read in maximum boost written by corky bell that if you're using synthetic oils,you don't have to use it. isn't more beneficial to the turbo to have a cooler supply of oil flowing to it?
After installing the turbo , I noticed that the grippy stuff Fram puts on the end the filter was bubbling off. This never happened while I was NA. This worried me a little. The properties of the oil are probably fine at that temp, but I wasn't comfortable with it. So I got an oil cooler . It was only $80 from pep boys. Came with all the adapters, etc. I had to switch to a shorter filter to avoid whacking it on speed bumps though . I mounted it behind the passenger side fake brake scoop. I figure, it can only help. With all the additional stress that I've put on the stock cooling system , I might as well help it out some with additional coolers . BTW, I've been warned several times to stay away from Fram filters, I'm now trying PureOne.
Wyatt, If you do a VFAQ, you'll make me VERY GRATEFUL! lol
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I've wanted to do one of those puppies as well, and the part that gets me, of course, is the cooler piping. Without directions, I'm next to worthless! heh
Thanks as always!
Jason 98' Eagle Talon ESi-T Mitsu Super 16g Turbo(HRC)
Mine and the other ones I've seen just use flexible hose. If you mount the cooler behind the passenger scoope, running the hose is basic. Its really not a hard install. If you're concerned, I'll take a picture of it to show you how I did it...no VFAQs this time. And another thing, now that it is getting colder, is your fuel pressure too high when you start the car up cold. If its 35F outside and the car has been sitting all night, my fuel pressure will be like 60+ psi until things fully warm up. When the whole engine bay heats up, the pressure goes back down to 50 psi. I moved my FPR next to the intake manifold so it would warm up faster .
Hey, I had another question myself about the EGT guage to HRC, Corbin, so I asked Hahn himself about that higher amount of fuel pressure at a cold-start idle.(I have the same thing Corbin) He said that was normal and shouldn't be concerned about. I really didn't go much further than that b/c I wasn't sure if you had any peripheral issues related to it. But this may offer some piece of mind for you, Corbin.
And yes, I would appreciate any type of pitures you'd be willing to offer related to your oil cooler. I do use sunthetic oil as well, but I'm all about being as kind to the engine as possible.
Thanks!
Jason 98' Eagle Talon ESi-T Mitsu Super 16g Turbo(HRC)
When you are up in Aurora we can look at mounting an Oil cooler for you. It's on my list of things to do. I'd recomend one with a filter relo kit. as part of it.
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If you have a turbo on a 420a, you are a fool to not use synthetic oil...
I'll create a new post about heat. Synthetic oil won't cake up in your engine/turbo. Synthetic oil and cool downs will ensure a long healthy life for turbo. Regular oil WILL break down even when you cool down the car. It just can't handle all the heat. AT LEAST use synthetic blend. And don't give me that "I can't afford it" bull crap. If you can afford a turbo kit, you can afford to give it the best treatment.
#60, "oil cooler? which ones?" In response to Reply # 0
I'm looking to see what oil cooler to get...I've noticed the B&M ones seem interesting (can see them on carparts.com). The b&m ones I think won't increase the filter height..
#61, "RE: oil cooler? which ones?" In response to Reply # 8
Check to see what kind of adapter comes with the B&M cooler. Most have sandwich adapters, which will increase filter height. Some have adapters that let you relocate the filter to a better place. Sandwich adapters aren't bad, you just have to get a filter that is shorter. As long as the threads match and the gasket seals, any filter will do. Don't get one that is too small though. A smaller filter should have less filtering material area to trap particles. I'm using a Hayden cooler from Pep Boys. It has a sandwich adapter and I'm using a filter that is over and inch shorter. The whole kit cost $80 and took a few hours to figure out how to mount it and actually do it.
#62, "RE: oil cooler? which ones?" In response to Reply # 9
What filter would that be that is the shorter? I've noticed on the neon newsgroups that there are two types of filters that go onto the 420a engine; there's a long one and a short one..but both are **16.
Anyhow, how is that oil cooler? (How big is the cooling area?)
